Type in 'black mass' into Google and this is what you get.
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Allegedly committing poisonings and sacrilege, La Voisin was a well-known abortionist, and was suspected of providing infants for ritual sacrifice in a Black Mass conducted by a libertine priest, Abbé Guibourg. These masses were purportedly celebrated on the body of a naked woman. It was claimed that at the moment of consecration of the host, an infant's throat was cut, the blood was poured into the chalice, and prayers were offered to the demons Asmodeus and Ashtaroth. Other obscene rites were associated with the host.
Nothing has changed. Abortion is a ritual murder. And the old nature cults prove it.
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"allegedly"
"suspected"
"purportedly"
"claimed"
Do you not see how these words weaken your so-called argument?
Not to mention that modern day abortion does not involve
- the body of a naked woman
- a chalice of any kind
- prayers to anyone
- a priest of any kind
- cutting an infant's throat
Libertine? Why is that so familiar?
*searches his memory*
Movement to reform christian church, very liberal, especially towards marriage and human freedoms (live and let others live, your body is yours and you're free to do with it anything you want to, as long as you don't hurt others). Extremely liberal, considering the time it existed. Because of wide appeal the movement had on public, both protestant and catholic church were forced to spread lies about them (black masses, orgies, birth of terrible children) until they could use weapons to exterminate them. Which they did...
Abortion has absolutely nothing to do with it.
"It was claimed" "Allegedly"... just those parts show your entire allegation is bullshit.
That above list of fantasy is also the basis of a book called "The Hypnotist". If you are going to come out with a bunch of hyperbole, try not plagiarizing someone's book, ok?
Uh huh. People which you would describe as being part of a nature cult (which is true, but you use it derogatorily when it's no different in principle than your own religion) perform abortions. The ones I've read about accept it as a fact of life. It's [apparently] not surrounded by ritual; the woman involved discovers she's pregnant and she just ingests the appropriate plants. They know pregnancy ends in a child, but if nobody's going to be able to care for it they don't bring it to term (and they're not stupid; they have surely noticed that her period stops when a woman is pregnant, so it's not even going to be a late abortion).
Or the short version: No it fucking isn't and doesn't.
(DoktorTR)
"Rat, thanks for writing and I'll swallow your soul."
*cocks shotgun, points it at Doktor's face*
Swallow this.
*BOOM!*
Xtians used to kill Jews, Muslims, and Pagans, all in the name of their "god". Xtianity is murder, and the witch hunts and Inquisitions prove it.
There. Fixed.
Christians are all homosexual meth heads. Ted Haggard proves it.
Christians are all scam artists. Jim Bakker proves it.
Christians are all murderous psychopaths. Eric Rudolph proves it.
Christians are all baby-raping cult leaders. David Koresh and the Branch Davidians prove it.
@Antichrist: Heck, it's not even on the first page!
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Oh, I didn't even read the full linkjust checking for the first bit. It is the third result for a Google Image search.
"and was suspected "
"purportedly "
"It was claimed"
Who by?
The Catholic Church i'd imagine.
Gotta keep that monopoly, keep the money rolling in.
I've gone through 15 google pages, and still have yet to find this link.
Man its come to my attention that fundie's tend to search more on paganism and satanic rituals than theistic satanists and pagans themselves. It sucks that they don't bother to read the satanic bible and see that one of the 11 satanic rules of earth is don't harm young children.
Abortion is no more ritual than a visit to the dentist or taking the Pill.
An aborted fetus is dead, its blood has stopped running. If you want to pour it into something you'll have to heat it up first (and then you are very close to cooking it, and to cannibalisim, but you seem to like to fantasise about such things...).
And (as someone already said) it's hard to find a throat on a less than an inch long meatlump.
I thought everyone knew. "Black Mass" was the best-seller about Boston's Irish mob, as run by "Whitey" Bulger, now in hiding. Whitey is said to have killed or ordered the killing of many opponents, as gangsters do, but he was a thug, not an OB/GYN. Abortions have nothing to do with his story.
Dude, I think the whole world would know it if abortions were actually ritual murder sacrifices honoring demons.
Speaking of what La Voisin allegedly did, her side profession as an abortionist isn't relevant. Cutting the throats of infants should be, I'd hope, a lot more horrifying than abortion to you...
Even if all the "alleged" details were 100% accurate, is it really any more blood-thirsty or unconscionable than the crazy shit Christians have done to innocent people over the centuries? Were these "black masses" responsible for deaths on anywhere NEAR the scale of the crusades or the scientific ignorance resulting from the dark ages?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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