do you have any evidence that shows homosexuality doesnt cause cancer, break up families or lead to drug use????
[Do you have evidence that it does?]
no its not my obligation to provide evidence for common knowledge. this is like you asking me to provide mathematical proof that 2x2=4
[Its not the homosexuality that breaks up families, its the intolerance for homosexuality that breaks apart families.]
last i checked, it does break up families and causes children to become homosexual themselves.
[Since when is drug use a problem linked only to homosexuals?]
studies have shown that many people in prison are there based on drug related charges, and we know that many prisoners practice homosexuality amongst each other. there is a correlation between the two
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>> no its not my obligation to provide evidence for common knowledge
Burden of proof. Saying "everyone knows" as a reason shows that there's something you're not telling us.
>> this is like you asking me to provide mathematical proof that 2x2=4
Actually, there is a proof that 1+1=2, and doing proofs is what allows for progress. After all, it was "common knowledge" that the Earth was in the center of the universe surrounded by several shells.
>> last i checked, it does break up families and causes children to become homosexual themselves.
Last you checked? So, there is evidence, apparently...why so hesitant to disclose it?
>> studies have shown that many people in prison are there based on drug related charges, and we know that many prisoners practice homosexuality amongst each other. there is a correlation between the two
Correlation doesn't imply causation, but I wouldn't expect a fundie to understand that. Many people in prison are there because they murdered people or stole money, but does that mean that murder and embezzlement is something linked only to homosexuals? Is raping women linked to homosexuals, because there is gay sex in prison and some prisoners rape women? For that matter, there are people in jail who are there wrongfully. By your logic, being wrongfully persecuted is linked to homosexuality.
And if you would take the time to study more about homosexuality in prison, you would realize the numberous documentation of sex used as a weapon or part of a way to build up gang societies within prison.
"no its not my obligation to provide evidence for common knowledge. this is like you asking me to provide mathematical proof that 2x2=4"
But it's not common knowledge you twit. If it were he wouldn't have asked for evidence. What you're thinking of is an axiom; such as if I were to say "water is wet." Obviously that doesn't need evidence but your claim sure as hell does.
"last i checked, it does break up families and causes children to become homosexual themselves."
Check again.
"studies have shown that many people in prison are there based on drug related charges, and we know that many prisoners practice homosexuality amongst each other. there is a correlation between the two"
Studies have shown that murderers breath oxygen. You breath oxygen. Since there's an obvious correlation between the two you must be a murderer.
Correlation does not not imply causation. That's what's known as a logical fallacy. [Edit: Drat. Gadren beat me to it.]
>>studies have shown that many people in prison are there based on drug related charges, and we know that many prisoners practice homosexuality amongst each other. there is a correlation between the two"<<
There are two major reasons why there is so much buttsex in prisons:
1. Prisoners are so starved for sex that they are willing to get their jollies off with some bastard in the shower (We call this jailhouse gay, and it is nowhere near as prevelent ewithin jailhouses as it is among some of the more pathetic subcultures of the geek hierarchy *cough*furry*cough*)
2. Prison buttsex is all about power and control, just as most rapes are. Prisoners assert their dominance amongst their fellow inmates by raping others up the ass. It's a power thing, not a gay thing.
And now, to lighten the mood, I present to you a song about prison rape by Frank Zappa:
Dong Work for Youda
-Frank Zappa
Hello there . . . this is the CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER . . . Joe was sent to a special prison where they keep all the other criminals from the music business . . . you know . . . the ones who get caught . . . it's a horrible place, painted all green on the inside, where musicians and former executives take turns snorting detergent and plooking each other . . .
. . . Anyway, listen, while he's in there he meets this guy who used to be a promo man for a major record company, named Bald-Headed John . . . King of the Plookers . . .
This is the story 'bout
Bald-Headed John
Dong work for Yuda,
Dong, Dong
He talks a lot 'n it's usually wrong
Dong work for Yuda,
Dong, Dong
He said Dong was Wong,
'N Wong was Kong
'N Dong work for Yuda,
'N John was wrong
Sorry John
Sorry better
Try it again
Dong work for Yuda
Dong, Dong
Sorry John
Sorry better
Try it again
He said Dong was Wong
And Wong was Kong
And Dong was Gong
'N John was wrong
John's got a sausage
Yeh man
John's got a sausage
Yeh man
John's got a sausage that will make you fart
John's got a sausage that will break your heart
Make you fart
And break your heart
Don't bend over if you are smart
He took a little walk to the weenie stand
John's got a sausage
Yeh man
A great big weenie in both his hands
John's got a sausage
Yeh man
He sucked on the end 'til the mustard squirt
He said, "Ya'll stand back 'cause you might get hurt"
Sorry John
Sorry better
Try it again
John's got a sausage
Yeh man
Sorry John
Sorry better
Try it again
He said Dong was Wong
Wong was Kong
Kong was Gong
'N John was wrong
Sorry John
Sorry better
Try it again
"Make way for the iron shaschige"
Sorry John
Sorry better
Try it again
"I need a dozen towels so the boys can take a shower"
Sorry John
Sorry better
Try it again
"Bartender, bring me a colada and milk"
Sorry John
Sorry better
Try it again
"On second thought, make that a water . . .
HtO"
Sorry John
Sorry better
Try it again
"Falcum . . .
Take me to the falcum!"
Sorry John
Sorry better
Try it again
"I wave my bags
Did you wave your'n"
Sorry John
Sorry better
Try it again
"Well how much did they wave?"
Sorry John
Sorry better
Try it again
"Ah'm almost two kilometers tall"
Sorry John
Sorry better
Try it again
"This girl must be praketing richcraft"
Sorry John
Sorry better
Try it again
"Don't worry about the faggot
I'll take care of the faggot"
Sorry John
Sorry better
Try it again
Try it again,
Try it again
Try, try, try again . . .
etc., etc., etc.
"Your Pomona is very extinct . . .
Yeah, I studied with the Dong of Tokyo
'N also with the oriental Kato . . .
My body contain uh water
I just loves the way these Copenhagens talks!
Driver, McDoodle . . .
Sausage
Salima
Salami
That looks like that stuff Freckles lets out
Once a mumfth . . ."
This is the CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER . . . Poor Joe. He's getting tired from bending over . . . but we tried to warn him . . . didn't we? Okay, Joe . . . you asked for it . . . here comes The Big One . . .
@AngryNotice
no its not my obligation to provide evidence
Yes it is.
"studies have shown that many people in prison are there based on drug related charges, and we know that many prisoners practice homosexuality amongst each other. there is a correlation between the two"
Just what are they practicing for? the homo-olympics?
This guy is a hoot. Of course there is a correlation between prisoners and homosexuality. They are locked in cells together with no sexual outlet.
There is no "study" that says drug prisoners "practice" homosexuality at higher rates than other prisoners.
Here is his logic. Studies show that people go to jail for theft. Studies also show some prisoners engage in homosexual behavior.
Therefore, thiefs are homosexuals.
This guy is the master of improper conclusions. What a mo-ron.
no its not my obligation to provide evidence for common knowledge.
In other words, you dunno.
You FAIL, good day sir!
2x2 is always four,rules of math. Common knowledge only in that we know the rules of math.
What he said not only not common knowledge but statistics show otherwise. Making up shit to further villify gays.
Also statistics show about 85% of the incarecerated are Christians and less then 0.2% atheist. Not common knowledge but fact, what's this say about Christians?
Did you know that prisoners also often use cigarettes as a form of currency? OMG! Smokers are gay drug-using criminals!
"last i checked, it does break up families and causes children to become homosexual themselves."
The amazing feats accomplished by checking your facts using bizarro world sources.
Burden of proof lies with the person making a statement, not on the one refusing to believe that statement.
None of those statements are common knowledge in Sweden. The only common knowledge on the subject here is that homosexuality leads to gay sex.
From Shawshank Redemption, on the subject of guys raping guys in prison:
Andy: Does it help to tell them that I'm not homosexual?
Red: Neither are they. You have to be human first. They don't qualify.
"we know that many prisoners practice homosexuality amongst each other"
I practiced the saxophone every day for three years. Didn't make me Bill Clinton.
Having sex with someone of the same sex doesn't make you gay. Wanting to build a life with someone of the same sex does.
Prisoners also disproportionately practice Christianity. By your logic, Christians are all drug abusers and family wreckers.
Not very fun when the bat-shit crazy logic's pointed noisy end first at you, is it.
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