[answer to a post from a Christian stating that there are some mistakes in the Bible, including confusion over the year of Jesus' birth]
The Jews used a calendar based on the lunar phases; nothing like ours. Every few years they had to add a month, like we add a day every four. It's been proven by using their calendar, Jesus was born year zero.
If you profess to be a disciple of Christ why aren't you asking HIM for understanding? He's happy to give it. I've had a thousand questions, and he's answered them all - in detail.
Disciples have relationship; we are free to speak and ask and knock and seek. You make it sound like you're reading just any old book.... There's nothing wrong with the Holy Scripture. Herod died in 4 AD not BC.
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1. There is no year 0. Fail right off.
2. Herod died in 4 B.C. This is well established by Roman records, because he was a Roman-supported tetrarch.
And are we absolutely certain about Jeebus being born in December, because we have proof of the early church moving the date to coincide with the more popular Saturnalia in late December.
And are bats really birds like it says in the Bible?
You can believe in your God and your book but you can't resolve the conflicts and contradictions, which you proved just there.
Newton created a list of Biblical problems to resolve and never did, Newton definately would have compared Hebrew calenders to Roman, probably in his sleep. Newton would have exhaused every angle to these conflicting issues, he ultimately realized, as you should, that the book is in not a cohesive literal account.
You've recived no answers from Jesus, you've been scammed by some apologist pamphlet
1) The Jewish calendar is based on the sun as well as the moon; the Muslim calendar is based on the phases of the moon. That's why Jewish holidays stay in the same season, e.g. Purim is always in spring, but Ramadan, Bajram etc. can be in any season.
Rabbits don't chew cud, bats are mammals, the earth is a disc, and God hates shrimp.
What? The Bu¥bull says all these things!
And are you sure it's not your refusal to take your meds?
Let me see:
@ Goomy pls:
Bats ARE mammals.
> If you profess to be a disciple of Christ why aren't you asking HIM for understanding? He's happy to give it. I've had a thousand questions, and he's answered them all - in detail.
Please ask him where I left my keys -- I've looked everywhere.
we are free to speak and ask and knock and seek.
Sure you are, but that doesn't mean your imaginary friend isn't imaginary.
The Jews used a calendar based on the lunar phases; nothing like ours. Every few years they had to add a month, like we add a day every four.
The Jewish calendar is a solar calendar just like the civil one. The moon is used only to (roughly) define months. It has a nominal 354* day year and adds 30 days from time to time, while the civil calendar has a 365 day year and adds a day from time to time, but both calendars get to the same place and track the sun pretty accurately over long periods.
*Rosh Hashanah, the (modern) Jewish New Year, can be shifted a day or two for religious reasons, but this gets compensated for.
why aren't you asking HIM for understanding?
Because judging from what you said, for example " Jesus was born year zero." it seems like a bad idea.
The Jews used a calendar made entirely of wheat, and if you hit yourself in the head enough times with a heavy shoe, the Bible makes perfect sense. Herod didn't die, he just told people he did to avoid paying taxes. Loony calendars say Bugs Bunny was at the Nativity - I saw the picture myself! Sixty-two divided by four equals February.
Shit! You dumb asshole! You broke my brain!
I too believe that Jesus was born in no year that actually existed, by the way.
Every few years they had to add a month
And just why do they add a month every few years? Right, to keep re-sync with the solar year cycle. Beep, you lose, next please.
Btw, the Babylonians and Sumerians used the exact same system.
"I've had a thousand questions, and he's answered them all - in detail."
Then you need to get your doctor to up the dosage on your Risperdol.
Actually, Jesus was born in Kenya. I don't care what those liars in the Bible say. Show me his real birth certificate. No, not that one - the real one. Well, no, not the one the Jews say is the real one - that was forged. We know the Jews are a bunch of liars. I want to see the real real one.
ALL HAIL JESUS! sounds like an unusually alarming weather report. But it probably means, "Quick folks! Get inside, bolt the doors, close the curtains and pretend to be out. A horde of fundies just hit town."
All hail Jesus
Obliterating everything that's not your friend
Nothing can stop you now
What does it matter what calendar the Jews are using? They are still waiting for the Messiah, they didn't begin their counting at the year of the birth of Jesus.
Jesus was born when the shepherds were watching their flock at night, which they did in the lambing season, i.e. springtime. As the story was brought around by word of mouth for a couple of decades before it was first written down, the years can have been misunderstood, mixed together and misinterpreted a number of times in the interim.
I've had a thousand questions, and he's answered them all - in detail.
When you talk to god, it's prayer. When god talks to you, it's schizophrenia.
"If you profess to be a disciple of Christ why aren't you asking HIM for understanding? He's happy to give it. I've had a thousand questions, and he's answered them all - in detail. "
I asked Christ if this is true. He told me he doesn't talk to you because you are an idiot who is incapable of understanding anything.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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