Sir, do me a HUGE favor and ask your grandfather who suffered thru the Holocaust, how he feels about you turning your life over to the very belief system that put his fanny there.
Again, I'll be waiting here.
Was it believers in gravity or EVOLUTION who called Jews an "inferior race"?
By the way, the scientific method is what invalidates evolution as science. Since it cannot be falsified or verified without a time machine, it falls outside the realm of observational, empirical data. THAT and that alone is why it is philosophy. The fact that everyone who believes in it does so by FAITH that would make a Muslim bus bomber blush, is what makes it a religion.
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Hitler was a Christian. He wasn't a scientist; chances are he knew fuck all about how evolution works.
Funny how creationists always manage to throw in a Hitler reference, sometimes along with a hateful anti-Arab (hint: RACIST) comment.
By the way, the scientific method is what invalidates evolution as science. Since it cannot be falsified or verified without a time machine, it falls outside the realm of observational, empirical data.
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"Was it believers in gravity or EVOLUTION who called Jews an "inferior race"?"
Neither; it was a believer in Jesus. Two believers, actually, counting Martin Luther (see "On the Jews and Their Lies").
Well there is a strong chance that Hitler, and most of the Nazis, were firm believers in the existence of gravity.
As the concept of scientific "controversy" was more or less unknown at the time, I doubt any of them would have challenged the ideas of either Newtonian gravity or GTR (had either been made known to them).
Interestingly, Hitler wanted evolution purged from the textbooks... So I think, despite Iva PleaseBePoe's implications, it was actually believers in Gravity not Evolution who persecuted the Jews.
Okay, let's go over this again. Again .
'Origin of Species' was banned under the Nazi regime because the Nazi rules stating which books should be banned included this guideline, and I quote:-
"6. Writings of a philosophical and social nature whose content deals with the false scientific enlightenment of primitive Darwinism and Monism." (Emphasis mine.)
Yeah, the Nazis believed in evolution. Sure.
[Was it believers in gravity or EVOLUTION who called Jews an "inferior race"?]
False dichotomy. Unless, of course, you're saying that those who believe in evolution DON'T "believe" in gravity.
Not that it matters. Evolution has nothing to do with what the Nazis did.
[By the way, the scientific method is what invalidates evolution as science. Since it cannot be falsified or verified without a time machine, it falls outside the realm of observational, empirical data.]
Oh, come on. Seriously. We have VOLUMES of evidence to support the ToE. There's the fossil record, experimental evidence with fruit flies and bacteria, and then there's DNA evidence. All of it validated scientifically.
You really should try to keep up.
[THAT and that alone is why it is philosophy.]
Since you've mentioned falsification and verification with regards to the scientific method, how do you feel about ID?
If Hitler beleived in natural selection, he would allow people of any race or ehtnicity to thrive if they were strong enough to do so.
Genocide is artifical selection.
Hitler is not the touchstone for all evil either. Try opening a history book, it is filled with awful petty men just like him.
Certainly not. If somebody was able to produce compelling evidence that showed evolution to be wrong in some way, I'd have to believe it. It's an unlikely scenario, as the amount of evidence for evolution is so overwhelming as to make it one of the strongest theories that there is, but it could happen. As it is, I believe evolution is the correct theory but I have no faith in it because I know that, however unlikely, something new could be discovered tomorrow to cast doubt.
Whereas you believe in a supernatural entity without the slightest bit of compelling evidence and you have faith in your belief despite the evidential lack. If you can't see the difference then you must be way below the average in cognitive ability.
That's the difference, science needs evidence, whereas religion needs faith.
Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pondered, weak and weary,
Over many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore,
While I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping,
As of some one gently rapping, rapping at my chamber door.
"'Tis some visitor," I muttered, "tapping at my chamber door
Only this, and nothing more.
I'm pretty sure it was Christians who said that. Evolution makes no comment about belief systems. Social Darwinism, on the other hand, that might. But since we all accept that's bollocks, you really don't have a point.
we should kill all vegetarians.
was it a meat eater, or a VEGETARIAN who ordered the deaths of 6 million Jews?
weve let those fucking grass-eaters off the hook for TOO LONG i say!
DEATH TO VEGETARIANS! DEUS VULT!
"Was it believers in gravity or EVOLUTION who called Jews an "inferior race"? "
Neither, it was - and always has been - Christians. You're obviously ignorant of the writings of Martin Luther.
"By the way, the scientific method is what invalidates evolution as science. Since it cannot be falsified or verified without a time machine, it falls outside the realm of observational, empirical data. THAT and that alone is why it is philosophy. The fact that everyone who believes in it does so by FAITH that would make a Muslim bus bomber blush, is what makes it a religion."
You've already shown yourself to be ignorant, now I strongly suspect you're also a bare-faced liar.
Was it believers in gravity or EVOLUTION who called Jews an "inferior race"?
No ma'am.
Since it cannot be falsified or verified without a time machine, it falls outside the realm of observational, empirical data. THAT and that alone is why it is philosophy.
Well, must be great for you then, that your God does actually fall within the realm of observational, empirical data, eh? Wait, what? He doesn't? Oh, never mind then.
I think it was the National Socialists, actually.
"Since it cannot be falsified or verified without a time machine,"
Actually, we've seen flies and birds and shit evolve. And butterflies.
And bacteria. Everyone's doing it.
Iva Biggrudge says that those who have the mental capacity to understand the Theory of Evolution are Hitler's helpers.
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