Have you noticed that there are no attractive people here? I noticed that a lot, PZ's visit to creation museum with hundreds of students, no attractive people, and sloppily dressed too with weird sloppy haircuts.
Why is that, why is it when I look at young christians I see mostly attractive people well dressed with well maintained haircuts and when I look at young atheists I see the exact opposite? What's going on?
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And in response to this post, we shall soon witness the birth of HotAtheists.org.
Hey, it worked for the whole "no atheists in foxholes" nonsense.
Oh, I don't know. If I was male or a lesbian, I'd probably say the Ashley chick in that video was pretty hot.
I may not be the babe I used to be, but you squeaky clean, perfectly pressed christian types never attracted me, even before all you assholes started getting louder and more hateful. I always liked my men a little on the scruffy side.
As above, but possibly also because, as we know, for fundies it's all about appearances, all trivial, surface stuff. No depth .
"3 Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as elaborate hairstyles and the wearing of gold jewelry or fine clothes.
4 Rather, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God’s sight. But fuck, aren't atheists ugly?!"
-1 Peter 3:3-4
Lets apply "Segmentum"s observation to his very own religion:
"Why is that, why is it that christians praise the bible as the most attractive, most wonderful and miraculous book in the world, but when I look in this book and actually read it, I see the exact opposite? What's going on?"
Because you are engaging in stereotyping. Most young skeptics and atheists I know are rather well-dressed. In fact, I'm inclined to think that you are pulling that assessment of Myers's group out of your ass. And it's not like their physical appearance has any bearing on the validity of their views whatsoever, you idiot.
Not only do atheists go to h-e-l-l forever n'ever, they're UGLY too!
A good looking, happy, well groomed youth certainly is a sign of faith in the Almighty:
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(Please note how I avoided the much more obvious Godwin here.)
I wonder, how are atheists, at the same time, sexual perverts, if they're not attractive?. Make up your mind.
Ok, time for a Godwin. I can't resist.
Here's a group of young children, well dressed with well maintained haircuts. Just like their father:
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And here they are with their loving mother. Aren't they just so cute? Clothes certainly do make a person, don't they?
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Did you recognize daddy? No? Well then, here's another picture of him with two of his daughters doing his devout Christian duty, celebrating Christmas:
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That's right, it's Hitler's right hand man Joseph Goebbels.
By they way, mommy and daddy murdered those kids hours before the fall of Berlin. They died well dressed with well maintained haircuts.
I really don't want to get into a looks debate between religion and atheists but as you started it.... (Sorry admittedly I coming from a male hetero point of view and admit this won't win me points in the feminist camp. For that I am sorry.)
Lalla ward, Emma Thompson, Sarah Silverman, Gail Porter, Rebecca Lord, Nigella Lawson, (Let's be honest she is 50 and you would. How the hell she is the offspring of Nigel Lawson is quite bizarre!), Margot Kidder, Angelina Jolie, Katherine Hepburn, Nina Hartley, Eva Green, Jodie Foster, Frances Farmer,Natalie Dormer, Amanda Donohoe, Marlene Dietrich, Adrianne Curry, Asia Carrera, Jane Asher..... Ok I'm giving up now the list is just too long!
"Myers is in his fourties. You'll find a lot of non-attractive men at that scope."
Fifties actually, though I guess that only strengthens your argument.
> Have you noticed that there are no attractive people here?
Aaaaaaaaaaaargh! The "PZ Myers is fat and all of the atheists and evolutionists are fat, derpity derpity derp" meme that Conservapedia started is spreading! Run! Run from the stupidity before it catches you!!!!1!!!
Eye of the beholder.
I keep thinking of the televangelists...insane amounts of hair product (and that's on the men), makeup applied with a trowel on the women.
And I have been told I myself am stylin', by the way...kinda works against your premise.
You may find them attractive, but I don't get into people living in trans fat land with 70s style fashion.
I guess it's just a matter of taste.
Yeah, that was the last straw for ol' Smeggy over there. Most of his posts were Islamaphobic crap, then he coughed up that bullshit and got banned.
Not-so-attractive atheist: Hi, how goes it?
Yeah, I think that sums it up.
Well, so far, i've not had any fugly people as sex partners, and none of these people were christian either.
'There's no such thing as an ugly rich man.'
Marc Riley (a.k.a. 'Lard'), BBC radio presenter (formerly of Radio 1's 'Mark and Lard')
Proof? Playboy model Anna Nicole Smith, marrying elderly oil billionaire J. Howard Marshall. Then there's the little matter of Howard Hughes in the last years of his life. And his Mormon hangers-on-cum-manipulators. All no doubt 'attractive people well dressed with well maintained haircuts'.
Bill Gates isn't exactly your well-groomed, GQ model-esque mid-20s Adonis, Gieves and Hawkes of London-wearing 'Mr. Smooth', is he? Just your average guy Atheist with billions, who gives away billions more.
Yet, your 'attractive people well dressed with well maintained haircut' Christians aren't exactly obeying Luke 18:22 are they? So no hypocrisy on your part eh, Segmentum? [/sarcasm]
Apparently, Segmentum's idea of beauty is the "Dorky, Pasty-White 1950's School PSA Film" style & fashion....with, perhaps, a stong dash of "Weird-Looking 'Deliverance' Banjo Kid"
image X image = Segmentum's ideal beauty!
...oh, and "Bradgelina's" Atheist & attractive while Fred Phelps & daughter Shirley are raging, butt-fugly Fundies.
(a bit off-topic....Why am I picturing Mr. B Natural dancing to banjo music?)
Because you have been conditioned to feel that the traditional, conservative mannerism and dress are attractive, and that people with more than their next hair cut and Winsdsor knots on their minds are scary.
Paul Bettany: atheist.
He is fiiine!
"Why is that, why is it when I look at young christians I see mostly attractive people well dressed with well maintained haircuts and when I look at young atheists I see the exact opposite? What's going on?"
Confirmation bias. Or maybe actual hallucinations.
I... Wow. Looking at the video they just looked like, yanno, people? Average people. But, yeah, okay. Everyone who's super gorgeous must be a Christian, hurrr...
What about the "ugly" Christians, though? Was God just "testing them?"
"Why is that, why is it when I look at young christians I see mostly attractive people well dressed with well maintained haircuts"
George Clooney:
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Voted 'Sexiest Man Alive'. Twice. He's an Atheist.
I love the smell of annihilated arguments in the morning. Smells like... victory.
@Deep Search
"What about the "ugly" Christians, though?"
Behold, the more than infinite ugliness of right-wing Fundamental ist Christianity:
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As proven in the documentary film "Jesus Camp".
You should talk to David J. Stewart over at jesus-is-savior.com. Considering how often and vehemently he rails against attractive non-Christians tempting him on television, in movies and in magazines, he must see an awful lot of them.
Atheist: "You silly Christians, you totally believe a book that has no substantial use or proof. You're wasting your time and energy requesting favors from a being that has been statistically proven to not listen to you. Most likely it doesn't exist as nothing in your book of fairy tales has ever been proven true!"
Fundie: "Oh yeah! You're ugly!"
@Dr. Shrinker
"You should talk to David J. Stewart over at jesus-is-savior.com. Considering how often and vehemently he rails against attractive non-Christians tempting him on television, in movies and in magazines, he must see an awful lot of them."
When Davey-boy's not busy tugging it to the Disney Channel, that is. >:D
Yo Pharyngula, I am an atheist who has nicely maintained CLEAN hair, casual clothes, zero tattoos and piercings limited to two in each ear (though I'm sure you think even that is indecent). Stop your generalizing.
EDIT: Before people jump on me, I'm not saying anything is wrong with having long hair (though if it's dirty, that's rather disgusting), clothes considered weird or "Satanic", tats, or piercings. It's your choice. I had a nose ring before I had an important internship, and then I took it out and it closed up. :( And I do want a tattoo. It's just that my parents are kind of uptight about that kind of stuff, and I don't want to drop out of college because they cut me off. :( :(
"why is it when I look at young christians I see mostly attractive people well dressed with well maintained haircuts and when I look at young atheists I see the exact opposite?"
HAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOL!!!
seriously man, grow a pair of eyeballs.
@Anon-e-moose
"...When Davey-boy's not busy tugging it to the Disney Channel, that is. >:D "
A little websearch proves EXACTLY what we've all suspected! Yes, Virginia, Dave is a kiddy-fiddler & was recently convicted (also for being a kiddy-clobberer).
What is going on is that you have different tastes. You prefer people to look factory-made, and atheists do not. Additionally, you have different standards of beauty. My ex girlfriend (and still my best friend) had blue hair at one point, and the side shaved (think Marilyn Manson) at another, and pretty much always has t-shirts with designs on ranging from the aforementioned Marilyn Manson to custom-made t-shirts and always wears hoodies, including a custom Rammstein one (and has cosplayed as the still aforementioned Marilyn Manson and as Till Lindemann from Rammstein). I still think of her as the most beautiful person on Earth.
One of the cutest websites I've seen is Bad Album Covers, It's notable that over half the cover are Gospel records with the ugliest people or biggest hair you can imagine.
Add that to the helmet haired, fake smily preachers you people keep producing and,,well,,,you're a huge liar.
Why is that, why is it when I look at young christians I see mostly attractive people well dressed with well maintained haircuts and when I look at young atheists I see the exact opposite? What's going on?
You see whatever it is you want to see. And it doesn't accurately reflect reality.
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