@brazenTyrant
So a few things that article states:
- 1 in 167 Canadians try to kill themselves (so not even 1%)
- 11% of transgender try to kill themselves and about a third considered it
- parental support drops that by 57% (still too high and I'm not their daddy anyway)
- "Support from peers and colleagues didn't have a significant effect"
Keep in mind I'm not a peer or a colleague, just your average stranger from who knows how many hundreds or thousands of miles away. So my impact is even lower. The idea that something I say is so triggering that you kill yourself over it is rather absurd. You're not a robot, you do make your own choices. If words on the Internet offend you that much, get off the Internet.
- "numbers don't allow for a traditional random sampling" - so keep that in mind because it might not even be as reliable
- "Researchers gave surveys to a small number of transgender people, who each in turn could give out surveys to three more, and so on, until they created a network of 433 people" - again VERY different from how a random sampling would be done
"The risk of suicidal thoughts dropped 44% among trans Ontarians who could get legal forms such as birth certificates or OHIP cards with their new gender."
Even a drop of 44% still doesn't bring the number anywhere near 1 in 167 people.
You know, I didn't put "From Pluto" in the nickname for no reason.
The purpose of legal documents is to establish facts about a person, in this case, the circumstances of your birth. The reason why it's a bad idea to change the sex on a birth certificate is the same as changing birth location. It's supposed to stay there EVEN if you relocate. If ink on a piece of paper drives you to suicide, then problem is you, not the paper. Other minorities had dealt with worse without having sky high suicide rates.
If someone were to provide a false location of birth when filing legal binding paperwork, that would be fraud. You can't just put in something like "Location: Delta Station, Pluto" just because you really really wish that were the case. You can't modify the birth date. Why should you be allowed to modify the sex and why does it affect you?
"-- Those who experienced low levels of trans-based hate were 66% less likely to consider suicide that those who endured high levels through things such as abuse."
66% less likely is still way higher than the general population, but then again "low levels of trans-based hate" is undefined. I mean some people find "low level" offense in someone opening his speech to a crowd of people with "Ladies and gentlemen".
"-- There was a link between suicide and how far along a trans person was in changing their body to the desired state -- the closer to completion, the fewer attempted suicides."
What about after completion? It's not a trick question, charts can go up and down and up again and down again etc.
In any case, I'm not sure why the government should pay for it anymore than it has to buy a hoarders a 50-bedroom mansion so they have more storage for their junk.
Admittedly the argument would be somewhat more plausible in a country with universal healthcare in its constitution, but even there healthcare is rationed.
"So you are once again saying that black people had no right to desegregation."
And that's not entirely true either, the government certainly can't segregate without a valid cause, citizens being equal under the law and all. Race is not a valid cause. Sex is not a valid cause in most cases, but in a few they're justified because men and women aren't quite as similar as a black man/woman is to a white man/woman. See any race segregation lately in prisons? Yeah, okay there are some gangs, but they're still in the same prison. Men and women aren't kept in the same prisons, would be a really bad idea to since rape would skyrocket. Not hard to figure it out: low-moral sex-starved men with little to lose suddenly mixed in with a population of women... What do you think will happen?
As for the private sector, I wouldn't exactly describe desegregation as a "right", but I'm also not a pure libertarian, I'm somewhere between libertarian and conservative, so I have no problem with government sometimes enforcing moral limits on what a private business can do. I'm not exactly happy with the trade deals either, remember? I'd definitely pump some tariffs too on companies trading with third world dictatorships.
Positive rights should not be considered real rights. That's a sure path to collectivism and the erosion of negative rights which are the basis of a free country. And no it's not a slippery slope, it's already proven that it has no limits and never stops if not stopped. The more "rights" the government invents, the more taxes you pay and the less freedom you have.
@RiJayden
Irrespective of the bigotry, real or imagined, people who commit suicide do it as an act of their own free will. Unless someone is deliberately promoting suicide or torturing someone to drive them insane enough to commit suicide you don't have a case. If words on the Internet offend you, click the X button.
And given that other truly oppressed groups don't commit suicide so often, it's pretty clear there are unresolved issues that have little to do with society at large.
