['and seeing assholes in Kansas bitch about creationism. In the long term we're screwed by these people']
Nonsense. Darwinism is meaningless when it comes to technology and applied science. No physical scientist pays any real attention to evolutionary theory. At it's best it's a model of past events. Like archaeology, its main application is fodder for PBS shows.
Moreover, it carries with it so many logical fallacies that it's destructive when trying to teach rigorous logic and science.
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technology and applied science? Maybe I'm dead wrong here, but do those fields have anything really in common, on a day to day basis, with evolution? What the dude says is not so much incorrect (except the last paragraph) as it is irrelevant.
<<At it's best it's a model of past events.>>
What about flu shots? The reason to keep getting flu shots is that the flu virus evolves.
Nearly all of modern medicine is based on evolution, and I would say that counts as an applied science, and it certainly uses technology.
TDR wrote:
"technology and applied science? Maybe I'm dead wrong here, but do those fields have anything really in common, on a day to day basis, with evolution?"
Do "avian flu" and "AIDS" mean anything to you?
Maybe I'm missing something, but we use evolution all the fricken time in every branch of biology to make predictions and when screening genomes.
Hell, biotech companies complained about the Kansas ID affair, fearing it would affect the state's competitiveness.
Sure thing. By the way, here's an entire branch of bleeding-edge computer science based on principles of Darwinian evolution.
That thing flying over your head? That's the point. Sorry you missed it.
If there's an afterlife, Darwins happy he's dead, otherwise he'd be spending all his time in America cleaning YEC clocks.
He, a 150 year old theorist could bury you all without what's been found that supports him since he died.
That's ultimately one of the saddest things about you lot. You think you're destroying Darwins work BUT YOU HAVEN'T TOUCHED EVEN HIS BASIC THEORY. You only attack him, raise him to the ultimate authority, not because you can disprove his work but ONLY BECAUSE HE'S DEAD.
When Chuck Norris dies I'll be here telling you all how I could kick his ass into oblivion and I guess y'all gonna haveta accept it.
“Nonsense. Darwinism is meaningless”
It’s science, not a religion. Darwin was a pioneer, not a prophet, nor a Messiah. Darwinism is a creationist bugbear.
“when it comes to technology and applied science. No physical scientist pays any real attention to evolutionary theory.”
Yeah, yeah, sure, sure. And you know this because…?
“At it's best it's a model of past events.”
Yes, which helps us understand the present, right?
“Like archaeology, its main application is fodder for PBS shows.”
You’re just dismissive of science AND liberal tv, aren’t you?
“Moreover, it carries with it so many logical fallacies that it's destructive when trying to teach rigorous logic and science.”
Heh. Could you maybe point out a few? If they’re so numerous, that shouldn’t be a hard sell for you.
Unless you don’t really apply logic to the science?
Most creationists find the conclusion they want and move backwards to the evidence they’ll accept.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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