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[The whole point of this thread seems to be that your wife cut you off, and you think that is what "turned you gay". If I'm mistaken about that, then feel free to correct me.]

You never read the thread then. I am Christian, and not gay in any way, nor, by the grace of God ever will be. The thread is not about me, it is about women being selfish, and withholding. No can do. Women have no power over their own bodies. That is one major step needed in the absolute decay of a society, apparently. That happened back in the middle of the last century in a big way. It is a deception of the enemy. It led to hundreds of millions of real babies being killed. It also led to a narrowing of the sex pool, a crime against humanity. Also, where women also work because many feel they must have a career, millions of kids suffer the lack of a parent at home. Etc. Women are to blame for sodomy, at least as much as men. Really. And their sins are at least as bad.

Don't try to minimize the issue, and pretend it is about me.

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old comment by Eden

It led to hundreds of millions of real babies being killed

Hm, lets (incorrectly) assume that the term "baby" would be correct for the stage in which abortions usually take place:

Which is worse?
Unborn "Babies" getting killed in a stage of development in which they just consist of a tiny lump of cells, without any consciousness, neural network or ability to experience pain, for understandable reasons, like the mother not being able to care for their kids or would die during birth

Or already born children getting killed due to:

"And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle. And Pharaoh rose up in the night, he, and all his servants, and all the Egyptians; and there was a great cry in Egypt; for there was not a house where there was not one dead." (Exodus 12:29-30)

"Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt. Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass." (I Samuel 15: 2-3)

"Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the sword. Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished." (Isaiah 13:15-16)

"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones." (Psalms 137:9)

Not to forget all the children who died in Sodom&Gomorrha or perished during the great flood and not to forget all the other lines within the bible that are similar to the ones I posted.

So tell me,
were these babies and children (little ones) that, according to the bible, got killed (or ordered to get killed) by god less real or less worth than the babies that you claim to get killed during an abortion. Did they (who were already born) feel less pain than the lump of cells (without any nervous system) that gets removed during an abortion?

old comment by Kat

Right, right, right, right. Anyway, you are so desperate to get laid aren't you?

Here's a tip. Stop blaming us for all the world's problems, stop thinking that women aren't human, and treat us well and maybe, just maybe you can get some.

You really should have listened to the 21 year old guy on the thread. He had volumes of more common sense than 1,000 of your types put together, but no you still insist that you're great and there is nothing wrong with you, but everything wrong with us.

Have you considered getting professional help? No, no, not for us, but for you because I'm pretty sure even a male psychiatrist would even think you have problems.

old comment by Swedish Pagan

Reason no 1 why I'm not a Christian Fundie - I want to have power over my own body.

I agree that women having no power over their own bodies is one major step towards the absolute decay of society. Or was that not what you meant? That is what you said.

Selfish and witholding? If you treat your wife decently she will probably want to have sex with you. If you treat her like property, she will not feel amorous towards you. Easy-peasy.

People have always, during all of mankind's history, performed abortions. The only thing that is different is that now it's medically safe to have an abortion so fewer women die during or after the abortion.

If you are so concerned about lack of parent at home, then for god's sake stay at home with your kids.

Narrowing of the sex pool? How, exactly? As men of authority can no longer rape their subordinates without consequences? As women prosecute people who rape them?
On the other hand most people now don't adhere to the dogma that you have to get married before you have sex. Most people can have sex with more people, so the sex pool is actually larger nowadays.

But yes, women are no better than men, we "sin" or commit misdemeanors just as much, all of us. But if you look at the prison statistics, men are more prone to committing serious crimes, or at least more prone to getting caught doing them.

How are women to blame for sodomy? How are men to blame? It's just a hereditary trait, no-one is to blame.

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Read the rest of the thread on CF. He gets owned by a couple women who are pissed at his misogynist attitude and let him have it while he back pedals and tries to skirt the issue.

His best "nugget" on the role of women:

(bolding is my own) And what is this "use" of women? To have sex with men? Are women no longer human, that they are simply objects for man's use?
Also babies. Not just sex. That is the natural use of a woman. It is part of being human. Some women can't have babies, fine. They can do what they can. God made us a certain way.

Anyone else have some holier interpretation of what the natural use of a woman is??? Shopping? Killing her babies? Denying and hating men? Maybe I have it wrong...let's see if the proper interpretation comes...

and about Paul being single:

Great. He said it is better to marry than to burn. That means most should marry. God said it was not good for a man to be alone. It is, therefore NOT good to be single, and desire sex. How many men or women does that rule out? Almost all. For the rest...hey happy eunuchood.

Clearly, this guy must be a real charmer with the ladies. Any takers?

old comment by Giveitaday

What "Dad" has been saying throughout the entire thread basically boils down to this:

All women belong to men, to do whatever the man who owns them says to do, and to have sex with that man whenever he desires it because men "need" sex and it's holy mandate that a mans woman is to provide sex whenever desired. All of the worlds problems can be boiled down to the fact that women just don't know their place and homosexuality is caused by women not giving sex to any man that may "need" it so those men become gay and have to get sex from other men who women won't (for some unknown reason) give sex on demand too.

He also makes the following claims...

Women do not have control over their own bodies. That control belongs to the men who "own" them.

All social ills are the fault of women who just "don't know their place" and want selfish and stupid things such as a career or a life outside the home.

If women don't provide sex on demand for their husband (Owner) then he may go get it elsewhere and still not have commited adultery, but since women don't have needs of their own if the woman has sex outside of marriage (Ownership) she is guilty of adultery and must suffer the penalties of such.

Women have no needs or feeling except what their men (Owners) tell them to and are not so much people as they are tools for the sexual "needs" of men.

old comment by maanantai

After reading the thread (24 pages!) all I can say is that he really does sound like a broken record comparing need of food to his need of having sex RIGHT NOW BITCH! O_O

He gives no value to the posts made by others who actually have read their Bibles and who are happy (<-it seems so) and balanced that way in their lives as christians.

Conclusion: He gives no value to women other than speading their legs whenever he sees fit and perhaps smiling happily and thanking him after 30 seconds of thrusting and making a mess on the sheets, just before excusing themselves from the room and going to cry somewhere in private while cursing the day they married(?) him...

old comment by Icarus Jones

LIKE FATHER LIKE SON

I take after my dad,
I am like him in so many ways.
Like dad I am bad
both of us love to hate gays.

I am just like my dad,
our disdain of all women's well known.
Like dad I'm a cad,
and girls have no minds of their own.

I've th' qualities of dad,
we both think that ladies are chattel.
Ladies are sad,
if they think that they're worth more than cattle.

Who is my dad?
He's a fantasy God in the sky.
Dad is so mad,
at women who make Jesus cry

by going to work
and standing up to fuckwits.
I am a jerk
and dad, He loves me to bits.

I'm just like my dad,
both of us are right round the bend.
But dad's just a fad,
and we'll crumble to dust in the end.

old comment by Booley

Oh but gets worse. Later on he tells a women who said she did have a right over what happens to her body and that she would protect herself with a gun to defend that right....

"Remember, we are talking about believers here, married believers. They give up the right to withhold when they agree to marry!

As for physical threats, remember also women are the weaker vessel. Their power is not in force, or violence. Really. Very few women are a physical match for a man.

The power of a woman's body for believers does not include killing husbands, or babies, or withholding. If you claim it is, make a case, and let's see what you got."

So it's ok to rape a woman as long as you're married to her. Women can not use force to protect themselves though it's implied that men do not have a similar limitation. (not to mention he seems to think upper body strength will counter a gun)

And they wonder why we have hard time telling christian fundies and the taliban apart?

old comment by BlazeStryker

In order, 'dad':

You aren't Christian. You're hiding behind an interpretation of a Church.

You're so gay you almost match your sick little diatribe here, among the gayest things I have ever read.

"Withholding", that'd be them not letting you rape them to feel like a man or pretend they arouse you as anything other than targets?

They CAN and WILL turn you down, you sick rapist freak. They do have power over their bodies, despite the besty efforts of fundie rapist assholes like you throughout history.

I do agree letting your ilk take their power away is the decay of society, so you said one true thing (typically while traying to say the opposite).

In the midst of the last century, by the enemy. Oh My God, you're calling women Nazis for daring to get jobs and seek freedom after they kept this country going during World War II?

That's Gene Pool, you blithering twit, then again, your idea of a woman is a walking rape target with a target tattooed over her genitals so even your drooling rapist self can't miss.

As you are longing for chained and helpless ignorant rape targets at home, 'dad', you might not try the children tack, as in those days children were sent to work and treated as resources, not parented. You like those days, so by definition you don't give a damn about your rape spawn, gayboy.

Sodomy? Face it, gayboy 'dad', you'd fall in love with a tree stump, but want to rape women to keep them in line. It's okay, rape the forest! We'll wait.

Stop dodging the damn issue, Gayboy; it's ALL about you.

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