Israel and America were founded on the principles of the 10 commandments. That is why both countries are democratic republics. If we cannot put limits on behavior, then we have no right telling other nations that they cannot have nuclear weapons, kill innocent people, or invade other countries.
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Yeah! By cracky-chan, only the US is allowed to have nuclear weapons, kill civilians, and blow up those darn brown people. :p
Oh, and that's why America and Isreal didn't sign the Geneva Convention or why America is against stricter international laws on weapons trade.
"Israel and America were founded on the principles of the 10 commandments. That is why both countries are democratic republics."actual reason the US has no right to do these things is a simple matter of hypocrisy in most cases, not to mention the fact that imposing its will upon other entities, often by direct force or strongarm tactics, is about as far away from democracy as you can get.
Matilde said: Which ten commandments?, I don´t see people stoned for not respecting the Sabbath or for committing adultery.
Thanks for backing me, Redhunter. What I mock is the fact that this guy takes it for granted NOW. Come on, Israel is completely secular. OTHERWISE, fundies wouldn´t be roaring over a Jerusalem gay pride parade. And just a thought, democracy, its premises at least, date back as far as Rome and Greece, whose law was not based on the tenth commandments AS NEITHER IS EUROPE AND ULTIMATELY, ISRAEL AND USA. It´s based in the Roman law and, just another thought, in the Middle Ages, when they tried to impose the 10 commandments, there was no democracy.
If we cannot put limits on behaviour, then we have no right telling other nations that they cannot have nuclear weapons, kill innocent people, or invade other countries. Do you mean limits like not using coercive techniques during interrogation, not having your own massive stockpile of nuclear weapons, not killing people because of the actions of their leaders, not invading countries because they 'threatened daddy', etc.
Ok. The United States Constitution was based mainly on the English common law system, with some Greco-Romanizing stuff thrown in.
Oh yes, here it is... the Eleventh Commandment:
Of the 56 people who signed the Constitution, 52 were active members of their church. That doesn't mean the country was founded on Christian principles, though. Psychologists call it "projection" when people assume that others' desires, beliefs, goals and needs are exactly the same as their own. Just because you would run the government like a Crusade, you believe any Christian would. This turns out not to be the case.
Aaaah, the 10 commandments of 'democracy'.
And on behaf of Israel -
Please go look up the following words:getting caught stealing, but being clever enough to get away with it was encouraged. (There's a story about a kid who stole a fox and hid it under his coat, and it disemboweled him trying to escape from under the coat. Kid died rather than reveal the fox.)
Israel and America were founded on the principles of the 10 commandments. That is why both countries are democratic republics.
Actually, no. The 10 Commandments actually prohibit freedom, since they require specific worship of a specific magic sky fairy, ban free speech, and make an involuntary state of mind a "crime."
If we cannot put limits on behavior, then we have no right telling other nations that they cannot have nuclear weapons, kill innocent people, or invade other countries.
Not quite. We have no right to tell other countries not to have nukes, kill, or invade because we do all three of those things, so we'd be hypocrites. If we disarmed, stopped killing, and stopped invading, then we could tell other countries not to.
@fatpie42
Monarchies resemble democracys, how?
The Magna Carta was only slightly implimented by some, very few, benevolant Monarchs or nobility.
Because Israel and America are just the same or some such shit. 1949, shaped and created by the allies and designed with some of the same values.
So what you're saying is religion is beneficial to societal health?
Except it isn't.
http://www.skeptic.com/reading_room/religious-belief-and-societal-health/
New Study Reveals that Religion Does Not Lead to a Healthier Society
"IT IS COMMONLY HELD THAT RELIGION makes people more just, compassionate, and moral, but a new study suggests that the data belie that assumption. In fact, at first glance it would seem, religion has the opposite effect.
The received wisdom would lead one to predict a positive correlation between national religiosity and national moral health as one goes up the other goes up. In fact, that appears not to be the case, and the example of the United States is most striking; Americans are among the most religious people in the Western world, and yet we have among the highest rates of homicide, abortion, and teen pregnancies. To the extent that these measures are related to something that might be called “national moral health,” the intuitive thesis that links religiosity to morality would seem to be gainsaid."
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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