you have got to understand that darwins theory...was highjacked by others.
darwin said his ideas were stolen and turned into a scientific religion.
darwin was just thinking out loud at the wonder of life and the universe...
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Jesus said there is no God and riedhied admitted being a lying idiot.
I know, because I just made it up.
You have to understand Jesus religion. . . . was hijacked by others.
Jesus said his ideas were stolen and turned into an excuse to go on a rampage of killing torturing and looting.
Jesus just wanted to drink wine and get make out with his 12 buds.
Yeah, that's why he spent decades researching and fine-tuning his theory before publishing it.
Although there is some truth in what you say. Social Darwinism did indeed hijack his theories and used them to justify colonialism, but I wouldn't call it a scientific religion.
Yeah, I mean it's a good thing it was just an off the cuff remark, and not A FREAKING BOOK WRITTEN ON THE SUBJECT.
For people who venerate reality as a creation of God, they spend a lot of time ignoring it.
They just don't get it , do they?
Just because they believe things just because they believe Jesus said so, doesn't mean we believe what we believe because Darwin said so. We don't believe in evolution because Darwin said so, so fundie attempts to discredit him as racist, etc. don't have any effect whatsoever.
Well you're kind of right Riedhied. What actually happened was this: Darwin was just thinking aloud about nature when some people overheard him say "Creatures who are best adapted to their enviroment will be the ones to pass on those traits to their offspring, and to only those offspring shall be given..."
The eavsdroppers were intrigued, and asked him what he had been about to say. Darwin, lost in thought, asked to be left alone to formulate his theory, but still they pestered him, asking, "Is it a secret?"
"Must be, otherwise he'd tell us."
"Is it the secret of eternal life?"
"Tell us master, we were here first!"
An ruckus then broke out, during which Darwin slipped aboard the Beagle to safety. When the dust cleared, somebody cried. "He's gone! He's been taken up!"
The rest, as they say, is history.
Where EXACTLY did Darwin say "his ideas were stolen and turned into a scientific religion."
Yeah, I thought so. You're a fucking liar riedhied.
Seriously, tough, it's bad enough they take his death, and fabricate stories about how he recanted his ideas, now they're trying to say he never came up with them in the first place?
"Practically when naturalists are at work, they do not trouble themselves about the physiological value of the characters which they use in defining a group, or in allocating any particular species. If they find a character nearly uniform, and common to a great number of forms, and not common to others, they use it as one of high value; if common to some lesser number, they use it as of subordinate value. This principle has been broadly confessed by some naturalists to be the true one; and by none more clearly than by that excellent botanist, Aug. St. Hilaire. If certain characters are always found correlated with others, though no apparent bond of connexion can be discovered between them, especial value is set on them. As in most groups of animals, important organs, such as those for propelling the blood, or for aërating it, or those for propagating the race, are found nearly uniform, they are considered as highly serviceable in classification; but in some groups of animals all these, the most important vital organs, are found to offer characters of quite subordinate value."
"What was that Charlie darling ??"
"Oh nothing darling, just thinking aloud. You know how I get when standing beside you gazing at a beautiful sunset"
"Oh Charlie you old romantic"
And that's why he wrote a book called "On the Origin of Species". Because printing books was so easy and he had nothing better to do than print out his thoughts.
and Darwin said no such thing. Lying (Bearing false witness) is one of the no-no's from those 10 commandments you people are so damn proud of.
@Caustic Gnostic - of course, if they think it, it must be directly from God as God owns their thoughts...
(Yes I have heard this argument)
Yeah, I know that whenever I am just thinking out loud at the wonder of the universe, I am often moved to devote my life to the study of biology and write several full length, in depth books on the subject.
I wish that my computer could deliver my projectile vomiting to your face. I guess this will have to do.
Darwin and Wallace discovered the same thing, and Wallace almost beat him into print because Darwin spent so long checking and rechecking. But Wallace admired the older Darwin, and bore him no grudges.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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