i don't believe there is ever a reason to have an abortion. i don't care if it's rape, incest, mother's life on the line, baby's gonna die anyways...God never gave anyone the right to choose who should live or not. even in the case of rape or incest, God has a plan for that baby. if the mother was gonna die...you need to trust God in this.
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So, in an ectopic pregnancy, it would appear that God's plan for that baby is to die inside the mother's body.
BTW - if you deny a woman whose life is on the line an abortion in order to save the baby's life, aren't you in fact playing God by choosing for the mother to die?
That's what I thought.
"God never gave anyone the right to choose who should live or not"
Medical science, holy wars, life support, and incubation doodles for sick babies all disagree.
dumbass.
As you are probably a man, blueiverson, and a fundie to boot, I would not expect you to understand the complex and often harrowing reasons for a woman to choose an abortion. You are clearly clueless and justify your ignorance by hiding behind a book of ancient fairy tales.
Until you are prepared to educate yourself on this matter, STFU and go sit in the corner.
god has many "plans". Unfortunately for him, he has nobody but rag-tag bible zombies to execute them. Everyone else ignores him.
I'm fond of saying that anyone who claims to know the will of god is a fool, a liar, or both.
If the mother's life is not justification for abortion, does that mean then that a woman has the right to use deadly force to protect herself from a rapist who would cause a pregnancy that might kill her in the end?
Oh wait, fundie men view women as property and fundie women just go along with it so then I guess it doesn't really matter. Also, that the mother would die from a rape-imposed pregnancy is just another example of God's master plan and His mercy on us. Riiiiiiiiiiight.
Here it is. Direct from the Wholly Babble. Give up your doctors, use prayer and the anointing of oil against disease.
James 5:14-16 (New American Standard Bible)
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Is anyone among you sick? Then he must call for the elders of the church and they are to pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord; and the prayer offered in faith will restore the one who is sick, and the Lord will raise him up, and if he has committed sins, they will be forgiven him. Therefore, confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another so that you may be healed The effective prayer of a righteous man can accomplish much.
“.you need to trust God in this.”
But i don’t. I don’t trust your claim that there is a god, i don’t trust your claim he’s paying attention, or that there’s a plan. Babies with bone cancer, that’s PLANNED!?!?!
That’s horrific!
And, seriously, if two people are trapped in a fire, you won’t save one of them because God’s got a plan?
If the fire threatens one 5-year-old boy and a minifridge holding 5000 fertilized eggs awaiting implanting, you’ would trust god’s plan and let all of them die?
Or save the 5000 while the child screams?
"God" never gave you the right to enslave and abuse women. Especially when "God" is only human patriarchy propaganda and ancient savagery. If you had any divine inspiration, you would likely not be stupid enough to confuse embryos with infants and to deny the suffering and risks that you're imposing on girls and women. You would be able to see all those cases of deadly makeshift hidden abortions where it's taboo and persecuted. You would understand that it's best for experts and medicine to evaluate the situation.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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