Most things we think about the universe are based on anecdotal evidence. God makes a LOT more sence than this "dark matter" stuff physicists are always talking about. I think they made it up so they didn't have to say "we have no ****ing idea".
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Oh yes, when one has "no FUCK ing idea" of how something came about, it's much more logical to claim, "Goddidit."
Actually, dark matter was a parsimonious explanation to reconcile then-current theories of physics with new observations.
As with all good science, it predicted that certain phenomena would later be observed, and that they would behave in certain ways. For some odd reason, we later observed exactly what physicists predicted we'd observe if dark matter existed.
You'd almost think the physicists knew what they were talking about...
"Most things we think about God are based on the anecdotal 'evidence' in the Bible. Science makes a LOT more sense than this 'God' stuff theists are always talking about. I think they made Him up so they didn't have to say, 'We have no ****ing idea and have no intention of trying to really find out.'"
There, fixed it (along with the punctuation).
~David D.G.
Yes, becasue the idea of an invisible, omnipotent psychopath manipulating people like puppets from a kingdom in the sky and writing the world's best-selling fantasy propaganda novel makes SO MUCH SENSE.
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<< Keep in mind udsuna here's not a christian fundie, but a pagan one. Makes a stink about it if you call him christian >>
Oh, okay -- duly noted. Thanks for the clarification, whoever you are.
But that means that this person not only goes around claiming that "God" makes a lot more sense than science, but claims to be a pagan? That's a brand-new branch of insanity in my book.
~David D.G.
What udsuna says is true.
"One day I was walking along, this was back when my legs worked pretty good, and I totlally saw a bunch of graviton emmisions defying the theory of general relativity on the event horizon of a black hole. So I call my friend Roger Pemrose over and he's like "Are those gravitons doing what I think they're doing?" and I'm like "Yeah man, totally" and he's like "Dang yo, Einstein would shit his pants if he saw this!" Then we came up with our first theory of space-time singularities. This all happened in Mexico so nobody you know saw it and you can't falsify it but I swear it happened man."
-Stephen Hawking
The oddest part is, scientists obviously didn't make it up so they could avoid saying "we don't know", because they freely admit that the idea of dark matter is somewhat speculative. So far, though, the idea fits the evidence we have, so until new evidence proves otherwise or an equally useful explanation for the phenomenon arises, we might as well go with it.
Dark matter is just a name. They call it "dark" because it's not visible. Physicists actually *admit* they don't know what that stuff is exactly. It's somebody else who keeps making stuff up when they have no idea.
God makes more sense only if you ignore.. well, the god. Things like how was the god born, what is it (he?) made of (I suppose it's not matter as we know it) and how does the god do all those miracles in practice. You see, in the real world even gods have to do their things in some way. Only in the world of fairy tales things just happen without means.
Fuck me...
How do clouds form? It must be a big guy that sucks them together and chucks lightning bolts. We'll call him El.
How does the sun move? Oh that must be another guy hauling it across the sky, we'll call him Ba'al.
Does El get lonely? Yes, he does, let's get him a wife called Asherah?
Does El make it windy too? No, let's get him lot's of helpers and generic sons to makes the winds and do all sorts of other little chores in the sky for him.
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And the Hebrew people happily worshipped their weather Gods. Their mistake of course was letting the priests specialize and pick one God - then next thing you know El is Yahweh and they've nicked a whole pile of crap from Hindu and Zoroastrian sources and are claiming Yahweh did it all and all the other Gods are heresies.
Then came the wars and genocides.
Then thousands of years later they worked out what really made the sun and wind and stars and weather patterns work.
THAT'S WHEN YOU'RE MEANT TO STOP BELIEVING IN THE SKY DADDY!
"Most things we think about the universe are based on anecdotal evidence."
No, most of what we know of the universe comes from empirical evidence. Do you know the difference, udsuna?
"God makes a LOT more sence than this "dark matter" stuff physicists are always talking about. I think they made it up so they didn't have to say 'we have no ****ing idea.'"
Just because YOU have no fucking idea does not mean that all phyicists and astronomers are clueless. Dark matter is a relatively new discovery and is being studied. Eventually, science will get a better grip on exactly what it is and it's effects.
Your assertion that "God makes a LOT more sence" is ridiculous. I can't think of a singular instance in which God would make more sense than scientifically collected data.
God is EASIER then using your brain. Instead of learning about how the world truly is, you wall off mankind and say "goddidit", that's lazy, not sensible.
Ooh, impersonating a deity, are we? That will get you some hell time for sure - or, at least, it would if God existed.
Anything of consequence to add, or should I just add you to my "ignore" list now?
I think they made it up so they didn't have to say "we have no ****ing idea".
That’s strange, because scientists say that all the time (maybe without the profanity), but usually followed by “
but we will do our best to find out.”
"Most things we think about the universe are based on anecdotal evidence.”
Okay, see, what -I- recall from science classes (and Math, now that i think about it), is they told us what current thinking was AND HOW WE CAME TO KNOW IT WAS TRUE. So, not anecdotal evidence.
“God makes a LOT more sence than this "dark matter" stuff physicists are always talking about”
An invisible, all-powerful, all-knowing being of perfect justice that has no beginning makes sense to you? Not only that, but makes MORE sense than the universe having a beginning, and us having limited knowledge?
Whatever you’re taking, is it legal in your state?
"I think they made it up so they didn't have to say "we have no ****ing idea".”
Physicists are a LOT more comfortable with ‘We don’t know’ than any believer ever will be.
They do pretend that ’it’s a mystery’ is a positive answer, not a cop-out, as well as, ‘God has his reasons’ and ’we’re not to question the supreme being,’ and other platitudes.
Mostly because if a believer says ’It’s angels,’ and can point to scripture they’re done talking.
If a physicist says, “it’s dark matter” the other physicists will keep asking ‘How do you know?’ or ‘what makes you say that?’
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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