[Responding to story in which a student secretly records his geography teacher making anti-Bush comments in class]
He said that democracies don't go to war. He misquoted it unpurpose. Democracies don't go to war with EACH OTHER, is the correct statement. This guy is a hateful socialist who's brainwashing our kids. He said so much that I would have reacted to personaly by seeing him kicked out of the state, I ache! Isn't he supposed to be a Geography teacher??? Where did he teach Geography in that rant? This guy should be branded a traitor and burned at the stake.
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Kicked out of the state? Would that be before or after being "burned at the stake as a traitor"? This seems a tad extreme for presenting less-than-rabidly-pro-war sentiments. This is America, where we have the freedom to express our opinions, no matter how unpopular they might be. One shouldn't even be fired for such an "offense," let alone "deported" to another state or executed by torturous means already outlawed by our own Constitution.
However, *IF* the kid's representation of the situation is essentially factually correct, I think he might have a bit of a point (besides the one on his head) concerning the fact that teachers should not use a classroom as a bully pulpit for airing political views; it's not nearly as heinous as spouting religious dogma, but a teacher really should at least try to be neutral in presenting this stuff.
But don't get me wrong; I think it's quite possible that the teacher did nothing particularly political beyond making this one accidentally truncated comment, and this kid read reams of socialist diatribe into it out of thin air. A valid point in the abstract does not mean a valid point in the particular circumstance. And in any case, even if the guy was passing out The Communist Manifesto, this kid is overreacting in a HUGE way.
~David D.G.
Well, since geography is about countries borders and history, I can see where current politics could enter the context. But I believe that teachers should keep their opinions out of the classroom in most cases.
Good point, xMinionX. Mr. Cowboy does not have a problem with the teacher talking politics so much as with what (he thinks) those politics ARE. THAT is the reason he wants him roasted -- not for expressing his views, but for (supposedly) expressing views that are in opposition to those of Herr Cowboy.
~David D.G.
After reading the entire transcript of the tape, I am assuming that the lesson was a discussion about political ethnocentrism. The teacher wasn't completely clear in places and used some rather unfortunate examples. However, I don't think that discussing and defining democracy is far removed from the subject of Geography.
I believe he was trying to make the students understand that making a country into a Democracy will not make them peaceful. Especially when the example country, America in this case, is not peaceful.
With that said, I think this teacher should be teaching in private schools if he is going to have this sort of lesson plan. Public schools are apparently not the place for open dialog or formulating opinions.
So not only do you only use a very weak thing to support your argument, but also you have the same lack of respect for free speech as Henry Kissenger had for democracy? I, as with lots of other people, have to hope you never are in any position of power.
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So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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