Of course we have proof! How do you prove what someone who is now dead used to do? By witnesses! Unbelievable. Again, atheists use a lack of evidence for their beliefs.
What atheists are saying is that no one lived in Israel during biblical times except for a few people who made up a story about who lived.
It's just not possible to expect rational responses from people with that mentality.
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How do you prove what someone who is now dead used to do? By witnesses! Witnesses enough are seldom enough. Otherwise you'd find yourself blindly believing in the Loch Ness monster, trolls, the Abominable Snowman, and who knows how many other things people have claimed to see throughout the years.
"no testimony is sufficient to establish a miracle, unless the testimony be of such a kind, that its falsehood would be more miraculous than the fact which it endeavors to establish."
Thanks, Hume!
Of course we have proof!
Of what please?
How do you prove what someone who is now dead used to do?
Forensic examination sometimes helps
By witnesses!
that too
Unbelievable.
What is unbelievable please?
Again, atheists use a lack of evidence for their beliefs.
excuse me? Your lack of point or context is baffaling
What atheists are saying is that no one lived in Israel during biblical times except for a few people who made up a story about who lived.
Plenty of people lived in Israel during Biblical times. Archaeologists have uncovered their houses, complete with their fertility idols and other evidences of the various Canaanite religions.
Those of us who don't believe that the OT is history don't necessarily believe that it was completely made up. It's likely that the people who wrote it wrote exactly what they believed and wrote it in all sincerity. That doesn't mean they had it right.
Ain't it great when fundies say things like "we have the proof" or "there is evidence" for their claims, yet after they follow that up with going on and on about how atheists are evil buggers, they never give the proof or evidence. And I witnessed Carico blowing the football team.
Just because stories have some truth in them doesn't mean they're 100% accurate. For example, while this book represents a historical time, place, and event:
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it would be foolish to suggest that all of the imagery is 100% literally true.
I've always found it interesting that given all the people who apparently saw Jesus or heard him preach, there are no other sources that even mention him outside of the gospels. Maybe Josephus, but I think he refers to the dead leader of the christian cult but doesn’t name him perhaps he’s talking about Paul.
Witnesses are good. So you had this guy wandering about Judea preaching sedition and disputing religious authorities, drawing huge throngs, curing illnesses and raising people from the dead, then rising from the dead himsel. But not a single, solitary soul thought it notable enough to write it down. (Sorry, Carico, the earliest Gospel was written some 40 years after the events it purports to describe.)
The Carico Translator: "Because I'm bound and determined to believe this pack of lies and you keep trying to inject reality into the conversation. Sorry atheists, my skull is entirely too thick for that, sorry."
Adam and Eve were suppossed to be alone, do you remember?, and are you sure that all the guys who wrote the Bible(500 bc)were able to remember something that happened in the Bronze era?, why are fossiles and registers in organic elements less reliable witness than a bunch of guys who not always, REMEMBER, occupied modern Israel?
No you see, there is such a thing as degree.
Simple claims that are easy to believe require only a little bit of evidence. People living in Israel during biblical times is not a difficult thing to believe therefore it doesn't require very much evidence to convince most people.
However, the son of the creator of the universe cured blind people, did magical powers and rose from the dead and we have his book! Is a fantastic claim and requires way more evidence than "some people saw him, see it says so in his book."
"What atheists are saying is that no one lived in Israel during biblical times except for a few people who made up a story about who lived."
No No No No
It's not about whether anyone was there. It's whether any specific person, especially one with divine capability existed. Give me the name of all the citizens of Pompeii.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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