Vox Day #racist

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[Commenter calls Vox Day a racist for claiming that if women don't wish to be "forcibly raped" they should avoid the company of black and Hispanic men.]

Your claim that it is racist simply shows that you don't understand the basic concept of probability. Most black men are not rapists. Most Hispanic men are not rapists. However, an individual black man is 3x more likely to commit rape than the individual white/Hispanic man. I would conservatively estimate about 6x more likely than the individual white man but it's hard to say precisely because Hispanic offenders are listed as white by the FBI. It could be closer to 10x, depending upon the Hispanic/white offender ratio.

So, simply avoiding the company of black men significantly reduces a woman's chance of being raped by more than half an order of magnitude. That's not debatable. If you support seat belt and helmet laws, there is no way you can reasonably refuse to fail to endorse the practice of white women concerned about rape avoiding the company of black men based on the probabilities. Anecdotally speaking, of the three women that I have known who were raped, all white, two were raped by black men and the other was kidnapped and raped by a man who was Hmong.

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Enoch Powell was right. John Derbyshire was right. I'd much rather have the idiots refuse to listen to me and be ultimately judged correct by history than maintain my audience by telling lies.

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old comment by Vox

Yet another racist who doesn't seem to understand that being overrepresented for arrests or incarceration for a certain crime doesn't mean that demographic is ACTUALLY doing more of that crime.

Ex: Almost 40% of people arrested for marijuana possession are black, despite the fact that whites smoke MORE marijuana than blacks per capita.

http://articles.businessinsider.com/2010-10-28/news/30052164_1_whites-marijuana-scandal

Racists also don't seem to understand the concept that even if a demographic is overrepresented for a given offense it does not mean this is a reflection of the AVERAGE PERSON in that demographic. White male inmates are 3x more likely to have molested a child than a black male inmate. That does not mean the average white man is more likely than the average black man to be a child molester because the average man in both the "black" and "white" groups is not a child molester to begin with.

http://www.alternet.org/story/154813/conservatives%27_twisted%2C_racist_logic_in_the_trayvon_martin_case

*This racist also made that claim that all Hispanics are listed as "white" in FBI stats. Which is not true. Hispanics are divided up between white, black and "Other" because "Hispanic" is not a race. About 40% of American Hispanics self-identify as "white" on the Census. In some FBI stats Hispanics are listed separately, like hate crime offender and victim categories.

old comment by Vox

"Anecdotally speaking, of the three women that I have known who were raped, all white, two were raped by black men and the other was kidnapped and raped by a man who was Hmong."

Using anecdotes as "evidence" of a national or universal trend is a logical fallacy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence

I'm black and I've lived in the suburbs since around my preteen years. A white neighbor a couple of houses down from my parents moved away a few months ago. This white neighbor's wife (who was also white) stole one of my parents' newspapers every other week for almost 2 years straight. It took them almost 2 years to figure out who was stealing their paper when finally my mom walked outside while the white neighbor lady was in the middle of picking up my parents' paper. The lady tried to make up some weak excuse but it was obvious she was caught. Like they suspected it turns out she had been stealing the paper so she could have extra shopping coupons to clip out. She only stole THEIR paper and left our white neighbors' papers alone. We suspect she and her husband were racists because they always acted funny around us. E.g. We often found them staring at us from their yard or garage like they thought we were up to something and her husband, they left anonymous complaint letters in our mailbox about frivolous things (like our dog barking a little too loudly in their opinion, though several other neighbor dogs barked more loudly and more often), he like to host block parties in the summer that he called "Redneck Parties" (95-100% of the people attending were white, and yes, he ACTUALLY did call them "redneck parties"), he often parked up the street instead of in his driveway, partly blocking OUR driveway, etc. I have a feeling the fact that my parents have a yard almost 3x larger than most of their white neighbors had something to do with the cold shoulder treatment we got (i.e. feelings of jealousy from some racist neighbors who feel that we blacks don't "deserve" to have more than they have).

She ought to be glad my parents didn't sue her for the $300+ worth of newspapers she stole from them. They agreed to drop the matter when she apologized in person and promised to never do it again.

Now does that mean the average white person is like that or more likely to be like that? Does that mean this is how the average white suburbanite treats black neighbors? No. An example of why anecdotes don't count as evidence of widespread trends.

old comment by Vox

@Reynardine - Not surprised. Most people living among people of the same "race" have horror stories to tell about "their own" people. XD

My point telling that story, however, was to demonstrate that personal experiences and anecdotes don't count as evidence of universal or national trends. I'm sure this is not how most white people in the suburbs treat their black neighbors. Most of my other white neighbors have never treated me or my family badly.

As new people move into Anne Arundel County, Maryland (due to a boom in housing and high-paying government jobs, i.e. DISA) I HAVE been noticing more new white neighbors giving me the cold shoulder when I great them or driving slowly past my house when they see me, staring at me for an inappropriately long time as if they're seeing an alien or watching to see if I'm up to something. I heavily suspect a lot of these people moved here from "red states" (like Virginia) and convervative counties in Maryland. Mostly because a lot of DISA chasers ARE from Virginia and West Virginia. Voting patterns seem to be changing in the area too, AA County is voting Republican in higher numbers since these people started moving here in the past few years when it used to be an overwhelmingly Democratic county. I think a lot of these "red-staters" are probably bringing their mentality with them from their old homes and some of them are probably not used to seeing black people living in suburbs (or were expecting the 'burbs to be all-white).