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[Concerning a man who tricked his pregnant girlfriend into taking an abortion pill, causing her to miscarry.]

What is the actual hot button issue here?
Woman's birth control "fails' . Birth control was supposedly being used yet mysteriously when the "accidental" pregnancy happens , no move is made to correct the situation , the man expresses his desire not to go through with this , the woman despite all her precautions failing suddenly has a change of heart and decides this is what she wants to do .I must contemplate that if the woman had intended not to have a child and planned thusly and it failed that she would wish to not go through with this , also add in that the man in question is not on board with this . I feel this was a staged or planned failure or negligence on her part in an effort to have his child without his consent ( as if a man's consent is even an issue either way in these things) .The man in question I feel saw through this deception and decided that he would compound her scheming with a scheme of his own to disarm her plan , and it appears to have worked . He deceived her into ingesting a poison , she hi-jacked his reproductive power against his will . Both are despicable human beings , both have committed acts that are amoral , one in a selfish scheme to create a beneficial scenario centered around her own desires , the other due to an unwillingness to accept having his earnings and potential future hi jacked by this entitled person . Is one worse than the other ? Does the reactions of the man out weigh the actions of the woman or vice versa? the courts heavy handed approach to a male is nothing new this is the standard pussy stroking anti testicular beat down on an unlicensed penis carrier . The obvious double standard of it is wrong when the man does it because he lacked her consent , yet if he wanted the baby and she didn't it would be 100% acceptable for her throw this in the chipper is typical . i'm so numb to it I don't even get angry anymore . -DM- gonna wrap my hand around a rye n coke

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old comment by Swimming With Crocoducks

> He deceived her into ingesting a poison , she hi-jacked his reproductive power against his will .
Please WHAT? You don't want to tell me he didn't know pregnancy could follow if he had unprotected sex?

That guy didn't "see through her deception", he was a coward who didn't want to face the consequences of his actions.
If he is SO hell-bent on staying childless, he should use a condom, for fuck's sake.

I agree that it probably isn't a great feeling to know that one might soon have a child they never wanted, BUT it was his own damn fault AND it is NOT the right solution to TRICK his girlfriend into taking an abortion pill.
How freaking selfish must one be to do this to a person they supposedly love?

old comment by Swede

Why the scare quotes around fails and accidental? Birth control methods are not foolproof, they do sometimes fail. When that fetus is growing in your body, you might have a change of heart, and want it to grow and develop into a baby.

What about the guy's birth control, btw? If he really, really didn't want to become pregnant, he could have used a condom, which is one of the safest birth control methods.

Why would she go through this complicated process to trick a guy into being sperm donor? Why not get an actual sperm donor if you want to have a child on your own? If your partner really, really doesn't want a child, tricking him or her into parenthood is bound to anger him or her enormously and will not bode well for a successful partnership.

A man's consent IS an issue; he knows what he's getting into when he has sex, doesn't he? If he is very sure that he doesn't want to have children, he can have a vasectomy and be almost 100 percent sure of not impregnating anyone. It's the male that delivers the sperm, he is responsible for keeping them away if he doesn't want to become pregnant.

You seem determined to take for granted that this is scheming on her part and not an bona fide accident. Sure, she is a bit reckless when she decides on her own to carry on with the pregnancy even though he doesn't want to. But it's hardly amoral to not be able to terminate a pregnancy. He is also selfishly scheming to create a beneficial scenario centered around his own desires, ya know.

If you lived as a woman for a week, you'd see that the shoe is on the other foot; the standard is testicular stroking, anti pussy beat down on an unlicensed womb carrier.
Here's a funny video showing just how ignored women are in every day society

old comment by Canaduck

"Also, looking at the comments: MGTOW is not the same as MRA"

They both spend all their time obsessing over/blaming those evil, slutty, lazy, sneaky, stupid temptresses (substitute any number of hateful slurs) for all the wrongs in the world while complaining about how men are oppressed because of hard chairs and TV commercials and the existence of women who have the audacity to look good while still refusing to fuck them. (Women who have the audacity to NOT look good are also a source of anger, of course.) They both worship the cult of masculinity while simultaneously blaming feminists for the enforcement of the absurdly restrictive gender roles that define "masculinity" and what it means to be male--something that feminists are explicitly in favour of abolishing, just as they (meaning feminists) fight for the end of female gender roles.

There's a lot of crossover so I'd say for all intents and purposes they're basically the same, save some fairly unimportant details. Maybe I'm wrong here but all I see are a bunch of bitter, delusional woman-haters.