@Crazalus
Again, this needs answering... and if you say yes, simply because of a label, you're a fundie.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion
If your 'belief' is like many of these in that they claim deities/messiahs to exist for which there is no existence, then yes, your beliefs are stupid. Likewise, I've never heard of worshipping something scientific like evolution - normal people do not worship things. Worshipping implies putting something on a pedestal, away from being able to be criticized, which is silly. In religion, it leads to uncritical thinking, in government, it leads to fascism.
Essentially, the question of whether or not willful stupidity is evil or not is a hard to answer, but either way it doesn't change the fact that any organized religion has yet to conclusively provide evidence for its claims, be it Christianity, Islam, or Scientology. Hell, religion doesn't even serve a practical purpose. It does not do something that we could not do without. I am pointing out that even in the worst case scenario that the beliefs in 'God' turn out to be false, religion ends up accomplishing nothing. This is a far cry from being either a red herring or moving the goalposts. The word 'religion' is irrelevant, it is what is implied by worship, specifically the religious kind of worship, the act of believing in something for which there is no evidence that I am arguing against.
Not all religions are life beliefs/goals... which is something that needs to be taken into account before making such flawed generalisations...
You are defending the more mainstream religions Pule is referring to by drawing on very vague definitions of what a 'religion' is. It almost sounds like you're including something like moral codes into the idea of religion, something Pule had not even touched on. For the mostpart, when you think of a religion, you think of theism, myths, rituals and worship. Again, what Pule is against (and I for that matter) and referring to when he says 'all religions' here is anything that promotes the belief in something for which there is patently no evidence, like deities, with priority on those which ends up consequently hurting or killing people as a result, as Jehovah's Witnesses do by teaching their children to refuse blood transfusions.
Is this really that hard to see?
ALL religious belief? Again, you know nothing about the many different kinds of beliefs there are... yet you declare them all to be the same. This is something that, when a Theist says it, is jumped on with glee... yet you say it and think it's fine.
I never 'declared them all to be the same'. I am defending Pule's definition of 'all religions', where he alludes to the larger, mainstream religions. You are making a poor defence by blanket terming even vague beliefs or ideals/goals as 'religion', something Pule is OBVIOUSLY NOT REFERRING TO when he talks about the 'words of mentally insane old men', clearly implying theistic religions, obviously alluding to mainstream ones like Christianity and Islam with their Bible and Quran.
See above... unless you know about the many different kinds of beliefs that are classed as religions, rather than the narrow definition you are running with (the big religions seem to define it for you) then you're just lumping everyone in under a label, then judging them on it...
And how is that not Fundie?
I was defending Pule by the way that Pule had defined 'religion', essentially talking about organized mainstream religion, or one that makes claims of absolute certainty in textual form with no evidence to back it up. You are trying to claim I'm lumping this in with even the most spurious use of the word 'religion' to include simply moral values that people choose to call a 'religion', not something most would refer to as a 'religion'.
But since your only defense appears to be BAWWWWWWWW YOU'RE OVERGENERALIZING then I'll make it easier for you - instead of 'all religions' read it as 'all beliefs for which there is no scientific credibility or evidence, like those with deities or those which set out rules like eating shrimp is evil, or promotes faith without reason'. There, happy?
