Saul 25 #fundie

Saul 25 #fundie gracecentered.com

[re: Gay Marriage coming to America]

And Communism will rule America and the world(the cry of the world a few decades back). Just because things are heading in a particular direction does not mean that it will happen that way. You have two big powers on a collision course, radial Islam vs the decadence of the West. Both Islam and homosexuality are gaining in America, and both are totally opposed to each other. We do not have a gay president today but we do have a Muslim president, so I would not bet too much on the gay crowd.

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I know, I know.
The thing to do in the comments is pointing out insidious fallacies in her argument while buffing our internet cocks, but, in all honesty, how's ANY of her argument relevant to ANYTHING that's going on in the world? The west, because of China, has learned that communism has an autocratic rule over economy which leads to complete failure. Capitalism has a lot invested into the U.S government, which slightly resembles a sort of pseudo-fascism. (And when i say "pseudo" I REALLY MEAN "PSEUDO") You have a democratic, and slightly fascist, government that's been going at it for 300 years, and is now a super-power; but gays and muslims will destroy all that. Do all the Radical Fundamentalist Islamists own fucking Viacom and are so mentally retarded that they thought a command-based economy would be good for business? Are gays aggressive commie lobbyists? And what superpower? Certainly not an economic one! Because of all the shit that goes on in the middle-east, the Fundamentalist Muslims have not truly organized to even influence Switzerland! When Muslims organize and create an economic superpower, I GUARANTEE YOU THAT THEY'RE SECULARISTS!

old comment by His4Life

Creedence, I'll make that claim, and I can show you the uspporting evidence from firsthand documents as well. As you know, Communism has been trying to take control of America for over fifty years now, since the time of the Cold War. In their documents, the Russian Communists directly indicate that they will encourage homosexuality in America because it will weaken and feminize our society, to the point that we can not longer resist their advances. Tehy have also armed and trained most of the Muslim militants we see in the middle east today, again with the intent of using them as a first line to destroy America's culture and economic system. So while the Muslim and gays may not be in cahoots with the communists all at one time, they are both certainly being used by the communists as a tool for weakening our nation. We need desperate prayer.

old comment by dionysus

@Troll4Life

Hmmm, I thought you'd be tired after all of that running away you did from the Planned Parenthood post. Yet here you are spewing more bullshit. Whether or not the Russians actually thought homosexuality would weaken our military it's dead wrong for a couple of major reasons:

1) We have historical precedent to show that homosexuals can fight every bit as valiantly as heterosexuals (Spartans, the Sacred Band of Thebes, Alexander, etc.) and gays can be just as macho and burly as straight people

2) They can encourage it all they like but it's genetic so they might as well be encouraging people to have hitchhiker's thumbs for all the good it would do them

We need desperate prayer.

Go ahead and pray as desperately as you like. Nobody's going to stop you. In fact, the more you pray the better as it'll be less time we have to deal with your bullshit.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

#1217478

"@ His4Life:

So pray desperately. Beats the fuck out of actually doing something, doesn't it?"

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Least of all a so-called 'God' who can't do jack shit about abortion eh, dearie? But then, consider your own Old Testament (emphasis added):

Hosea 13:16: 'Samaria will be held guilty, For she has rebelled against her God. They will fall by the sword, Their little ones will be dashed in pieces, And their pregnant women will be ripped open.'

If he outright orders such to be done, not only does he condone it, he even revels in abortions happening. 'Blood for the Blood God' indeed. Khorne in the game Warhammer/WH40K isn't so fictional as it seems, going by you fundies' own 'beliefs'.

But then, as proved here:

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=76531&Page=4

You and your so-called 'Pro-Life' ilk don't give a fuck for the 'Unborn'. Certainly not for said unwanted babies beyond the womb. But then you lot worship an abortionist - your own Bible proves it after all.

@dionysus

"@Troll4Life

Hmmm, I thought you'd be tired after all of that running away you did from the Planned Parenthood post. Yet here you are spewing more bullshit."

Indeed. Not just having her arse handed to her logically in the previous thread where she claims that 'America is a Christian country', then when proven otherwise by Lucifer and others (via the entirety of the US Constitution posted); just as in that same thread Giveitaday annihilates her about her claim that she was a 'crack whore', also proving her wrong re. her metallurgical 'expertise' of the purity of gold. Then her claim that a 'Hell' exists - but she couldn't prove it to our satisfaction, thus if she can't prove that a 'Hell' exists, ergo, a 'Heaven', nor a 'God' exists. QED. Then more recently her claim that Prof. Stephen Hawking is nothing more than an AI (when she clearly knows nothing about ALS). And now her latest bullshit.

All I can say is she must love being proved wrong, continually having her claims utterly annihilated. In terms of arguments, Troll4Life:

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old comment by GigaGuess

*Looks around himself, in the Socialist Utopia of Canada...*

Hmmm...Gay Marriage for years, and no Muslims running wild. No filthy commies. Society continued on just as it was beforehand. Alost like your bawling has no basis on reality, and is just a facade to hide your own bigotry. You hide behind concern for the children. You hide behind concern for society. You hide the fact that you don't care about any of that, and are only concerned with the fact that it's your own bigotry that concerns you, and I would wager dollars to donuts, that you are pissing-your-pants terrified that if you had to acknowledge homosexuality in any capacity than as something akin to a circus freak show attraction that it would stir up the part of you that makes you want to go to the truck stop and take as much cock in you as you could possibly handle.

You are a coward, any way you cut, slice or dice it.

old comment by Professor M

Obama gets his heterosexual-supremacy from Christianity, not Islam. It's a distinctly Christian form of promoting supremacy for heterosexuals, too: "Oh, I have nothing against gay people -- I love gay people! And I think you should have all the rights that straight people have -- except for the ones that we're keeping for ourselves, because, y'know, God or something, and besides we want to feel special and better than you. But you can have a few of the same rights, as long as my right-wing evangelical Christian 'faith-based' advisors agree. Oh, and I'll say nice things about you, but will undermine any efforts to, say, repeal DADT or actually ban acts of violence and terrorism against you. But I'll feel really bad about how you pay more taxes for fewer rights and can be intimidated and harassed without consequence!" The right-wing Muslim heterosexual supremacists are at least honest about it.

old comment by Wehpudicabok

This isn't actually quite as crazy as it looks. The opening sentence, for instance: I thought he meant that gay marriage was communistic, but that was an analogy. The rest:

"Just because things are heading in a particular direction does not mean that it will happen that way."

True.

"You have two big powers on a collision course, radial Islam vs the decadence of the West. Both Islam and homosexuality are gaining in America, and both are totally opposed to each other."

It's certainly true that they're opposed to each other. If there's any religion less tolerant of gays than Christianity, it's Islam. Now whether they're "gaining"--well, if you mean "tolerance of these groups is growing among mainstream Americans," then yes (if slowly), in both cases. If you mean "these groups are gaining control of the country," then no, that's crazy.

"We do not have a gay president today but we do have a Muslim president, so I would not bet too much on the gay crowd."

A false premise, yet a coherent sentence.

So really, on a scale of 1 to Fred Phelps (10), this is about a 3.5.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

@Troll4Life

"As you know, Communism has been trying to take control of America for over fifty years now, since the time of the Cold War. In their documents, the Russian Communists directly indicate that they will encourage homosexuality in America"

And as you know dearie, the right-wing has been trying to take control of America under the guise of 'Christian Morality' and 'Family Values'. The following would suggest otherwise:

* Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended
during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after
admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.

* Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a
convicted child rapist in Florida.

* Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty
to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

* Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was
charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

* Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for
distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

* Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing
his genitals to an 11 year old girl.

* Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to
molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in
prison.

* Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a
10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

* Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10
years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.

* Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in
federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.

* Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was
sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after
he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

http://mccannexposure.wordpress.com/2010/02/16/republican-list-of-paedophiles-shocking/

'GOP'? Grand Old Paedophiles, amirite? In the above document, the Religious Right secretly want to encourage child sex abuse in America. Oh, and this one's a doozy, especially for you, Troll4Life:

'Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.'

Your so-called 'Pro-Life' cause is currently holding as much water as a colander. And thus further conclusive proof that you 'Pro-Lifers' have absolutely less than zero regard for the unborn.

Therefore you have absolutely no right co criticise gays whatsoever. Put your own house in order before you criticise the lifestyles of others.

Oh, and one more thing: remember in the 1950s how Joseph McCarthy tried to find & weed out supposed 'Communists' in America? All he succeeded in doing was destroying the lives of hundreds of completely innocent Americans who apparently didn't slavishly go along with the current paradigm ('All for Civil Rights? COMMIE!' 'Support the unions? COMMIE!'). But of course he had no concept of 'Hubris'; when McCarthy turned his paranoid attentions towards the US military, the whole thing blew up in his face. Then all his political connections disappeared, his credibility (as well as that of his 'campaign') went down the shitter. He became an alcoholic. McCarthy became the very thing he made so many innocent Americans become: a pariah.

And yet, in all that time, he didn't find one supposed 'Communist' mole in the US (and yet, our MI5 did, with the discovery, exposure and ultimately exile in the USSR of the 'Cambridge Five': Burgess, Philby, Maclean, Blunt and Cairncross. And with no paranoia, histrionics or accusing innocent Britons, neither). The ultimate irony being that, despite McCarthy's best attempts, a Communist Party of America still exists to this day:

http://www.cpusa.org/

And Federal law means they can't even be touched.

Compared to the above Repubican scandals (and more; see link), frankly a Communist USA (or at least a Scandinavian-style Social Democratic system) would be infinitely superior to a rabidly right-wing one. At least homosexuals aren't paedophiles.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AllGaysArePedophiles

old comment by Anon-e-moose

@Troll4Life

"Here is the document I am thinking of. It is from the 1963 Congressional Record. Please pay careful attention to point 26. http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm "

And here is the document you should be reading:

http://mccannexposure.wordpress.com/2010/02/16/republican-list-of-paedophiles-shocking/

Please pay attention to all it's points.

'Communists encouraging homosexuality in the US'? Like I say, the GOP - Grand Old Paedophiles secretly encourage child sex abuse in the US. And you wonder why NAMBLA still exists?

Like I say, Troll4Life: Put your own right-wing fundie house in order before you can even think you have the right to criticise anyone else's lifestyle - least of all that of gays.

One more thing: citing sources such as Conspiracy Theorist tinfoil (ass)hattery sites like uhuh.com have as much right to be believed as the Bible. As in they don't.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

@dionysus

Aw, shucks (*Blushy-blushy*). You've made a happy man feel very old (shome mishtake, shurely?!).

@Brendan Rizzo

"you Tempted Fate!"

But this Fate can tempt me:

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Fate T. Harlaown, from the anime series "Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha StrikerS".

(*Puts on sunglasses; bites lower lip*)

@#1217879

"A muslim president and communist at the same time?. In some other planet, I guess."

In Saul 25's, and Troll4Life's dimension, mayhaps (I wonder what colour the sky is there?!). Meanwhile on Planet Reality, it was Karl Marx who once said:

'Religion is the opiate of the masses.'

You can only be one or the other, I'm afraid, Saul & Troll4Life. Otherwise it's what is referred to as an 'Oxymoron' (that's a Contradiction in Terms, for the hard of thinking such as you, dearie). And you in particular, Troll4Life, put the moron in Oxymoron.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

@Brendan Rizzo

"@ Anon-e-moose:

Just out of curiosity, what series were those screenshots from your earlier posts from?"

Ah yes, I should have said which anime series those screenshots were when I posted such, so thanks for pointing that out (enquiring minds need to know, and all that jazz!). The first is from "Galaxy Angel 4", in which Chitose Karasuma (r) tries to ingratiate herself with each of the Angel-tai in turn. In this case, Vanilla H, the taciturn and extremely religious member of the group. The second is from "Ikkitousen" - and my favourite character in such - Ryomou Shimei, just after she's beaten the crap out of an opponent.

How's that for a quick education? And who says you can't learn anything from internet boards?! ;)

old comment by Adrian

@His4Lulz:
"Creedence, I'll make that claim, and I can show you the uspporting evidence from firsthand documents as well. As you know, Communism has been trying to take control of America for over fifty years now, since the time of the Cold War. In their documents, the Russian Communists directly indicate that they will encourage homosexuality in America because it will weaken and feminize our society, to the point that we can not longer resist their advances."

Do you really think that turning the whole population of the USA into this guy

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would have made it easier for the USSR to conquer the US?

Mind you, I'm perfectly willing to believe that some Soviet morons came up with the idea of weaponizing homosexuality, but it would have been just as retarded and as infeasible as the "gay bomb" the bright boys of the Wright Laboratory suggested in 1994.

"Tehy have also armed and trained most of the Muslim militants we see in the middle east today, again with the intent of using them as a first line to destroy America's culture and economic system. So while the Muslim and gays may not be in cahoots with the communists all at one time, they are both certainly being used by the communists as a tool for weakening our nation."

Silly me, and here I thought it was the CIA who armed and trained the Mujahideens to keep the USSR busy...

"We need desperate prayer."

Please do keep praying, I find the taste of your despair most pleasing :P

old comment by Anon-e-moose

@Adrian

"Mind you, I'm perfectly willing to believe that some Soviet morons came up with the idea of weaponizing homosexuality, but it would have been just as retarded and as infeasible as the "gay bomb" the bright boys of the Wright Laboratory suggested in 1994."

Oh no, the ultra-heterosexual and straighter than a laser USAF R&D facilities & their research personnel would never so much as contemplate the notion of even thinking of coming up with such a concept, perish the thought! Certainly not with they - and the rest of the US DoD being so opposed to homosexuals in the military...:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_bomb

But then, further proof of hypocrisy in the right-wing of the US - it's hardwired into their DNA.

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