The mistake is that astrology is not a science at all. The best explanation I ever got for astrology is it infers 'influences' which if you are not actively working towards taking advantage of then you miss the boat.
Another semi-good one is it is like the daily weather forecast. Big point is to be 'aware' and not looking for excuses for your own ignorance. If the forecast is for rain - be prepared - and bring an umbrella with you! Also, any newspaper astrology is terrible examples. The real ones - over time - prove their interpretation skills.
I have seen it work well when the astrologer truly understands their work. In all honesty though I have - after 20 years as a customer of many - found only 1 I stick with as he is 95% on the mark. One other I read (England-based) is more for added perspective but she is like 60% correct in my experience.
These millenials? Heh - good luck to them. Hillary lost because she is STILL a bad candidate - and sore loser who makes Al Gore's whining (not 'winning') in 2000 pale in comparison. Hillary is after all - a Scorpio woman. HINT: Unless you are a sadomasochist don't EVER date one. You have been warned....
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Up to 7th June, a certain someone had a 25-point lead over another.
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Because 24 hours later proved that birth dates count for less than fuck all when the former is now a Dead Woman Walking.
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HINT: Unless you are a retard: or Milo Yiannopoulos or Jacob Rees-Mogg, don't ever support the above. You have been warned...!
No, astrology isn't a science. But neither is it anything else, because it ABSOLUTELY doesn't work, not even with a supernatural explanation. Hear me out on this one.
Astrology tells us that the stars, planets etc. influence our lives. So they have to exert some kind of force on us, be it natural or supernatural. We can rule out natural forces very quickly, since electromagnetic, strong and weak interactions have too short of a range and the gravitation of other stars than the sun have such a miniscule effect on us that other people around us would be stronger "celestial bodies" in that regard than them.
That leaves supernatural forces. Even then, you can have either a) a force that permeates evenly throughout the cosmos (which wouldn't work since specific stars are supposed to have "stronger" influences on you than others), b) one that has a finite range (in which case our sun or our earth would be the strongest astrological object, which it isn't in any system I know of) or c) one that is guided, speak an intelligent force that looks whether we had Scorpio for example as our birth constellation and changes our lives accordingly... in which case the stars don't matter at all and astrology would still be bullcrap. And even then, since star constellations are human inventions (not even divinely inspired or such crap and also pretty young) it doesn't make sense for this intelligence to follow them. Take that plus the fact that star constellations have changed over thousands of years constantly and you have astrology, easier to disprove than even such idiocy like homeopathy. It's not even internally consistent, nor does it have the "you just have to believe" clause that normal religions have. It's just stupid in every possible way and I still can't believe that it has survived until now.
We know astrology isn't a science. There aren't any "real" astronomers, any more than there are "real" psychics. If you're so damn smart, why have they got you suckered in? "60% correct" is pretty close to blind flip-a-coin chance.
"the daily weather forecast"
Things You Wouldn't Hear from a Weather Forecaster
- The Met Office have issued a weather warning; they've told the weather not to do that again or there'll be trouble!
- The hurricane tonight will be caused by low pressure and God's hatred of homosexuality!
- Yeah, it looks bright for the weekend! I've got three grams of coke in my pocket and my wife's on holiday!
- This part of the country is gonna stay hot and wet for quite some time, because that's where my girlfriend lives!
- What're you watching me for?? Look out the fucking window!
The best explanation I ever got for astrology was "wishful thinking".
That one astrologer is probably just a very good cold reader.
Hillary lost because she's a woman. The US showed nine years ago that it rather elects a black man than a white woman. And this time it was rather a buffoon, a pathological liar, a sexual predator, a rich elite man than a politically experienced woman. [And yeah, it's not that simple, but a lot of the venom focused on her was misogynist-driven.]
Hillary was a more gracious loser than the Orange Clown was as a winner. The whining was all on the republitards after Obama's two elections.
Astrology isn't science. Being "a Scorpio" means only that the ecliptic longitude at the time of your birth is in range 210 to 240 degrees. It might or might not match your personality (and even so, personality types is also all mixed up and doesn't work all that well).
However, some people are making bad argument against astrology because you do not understand it. Learn it, and then you can make a good argument against it. Astrologers do not get the position of the Sun incorrect. Astrological signs are not the same as constellations (even though the names is similar). Astrological signs are a unit of angular measurement of the ecliptic longitude.
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I guess you are talking about me? Because I never stated that astrologers don't get the position of the sun correctly, I was arguing that no possible natural nor supernatural force influencing us and our future can be consistent with astrology as we know it and therefore astrology is as nonsensical as it gets. That astrologers put meaning into angular measurement of the ecliptic longitude instead of constillation doesn't change anything, there still isn't any kind of hypothetical force that could create the effects astrology predicts and therefore it is pure bunk.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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