[After being asked for Noah's drinking water supply]
Noah has animals on board and could survive milk. There really is no need for water when you have that man animals.
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Well, if Noah could survive living through the flood and months onboard a tiny vessel with thousands of animals, I'm sure he could survive milk. Not sure what man animals are, though.
It's like a perpetual motion machine! Animals drink milk, animals give milk, animals drink milk again!
OK, small words: this describes a "closed system." Unless the recycling is 100% efficient from all sources of waste and useage, (which in this case woud have to include the collection and recycling of urine, fecees, waste gasses and moisture from beathing, sweat, any blood lost from injuries and menstruation, hair, skin, and nails) a regular influx of new materials is required to maintain stability. In this case, fresh, new food and water would be necessary.
These fundies are too stupid to realize the Bible flood myth falls apart under the weight of its own implausibility.
The more you look at it from all the angles, from a 600 year-old man building a boat of the dimensions given, to gathering all the known animals, to enough water coming from the sky flood the entire planet past Everest, to surviving a full year on the open seas, to repopulating the entire Earth, the more the whole story reads like a fairy tale.
Not to a fundie, I guess.
While this guy obviously fails at the water cycle, even under the assumptions given it was raining for 40 days and nights in the first place to cause the flood.
Given that it was an age before global industrial pollution, saying that Noah didn't have anything to drink on the ark is one of the least effective ways to go about debunking.
--GF
As I've suggested before, by far the best way to debunk that whole sorry mess is to simply ask why, with the ability to create life itself and shedloads of water out of nothing, god then needs help building a simple boat and moving animals into it. If he has such power over mass and energy as to be able to create the universe in all its detail, why the hell can't he just move all the things he wants saved to some oxygen bubble in orbit or something while he floods things? Come to think of it, why bother with the flood at all, why not call those things he no longer likes out of existence directly, as he supposedly called them into existence on a whim?
Not to be a spoilsport here, but wasn't it... raining...?
Also, Ed, cows are not the only animals that produce milk.
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Not sure what man animals are, though.
I'm thinking that the creatures on the ark gained the Anthropomorphic template somehow. DM intervention, possibly.
Or, this .
Jenna (et al.): Yes, according to the story, it was raining for 40 days/nights, but presumably it had to stop afterward for the waters to recede, so drinkable water still would have been hard to come by after a while unless staggering amounts of it could be stored.
As ludicrous as it is to suppose that this boat could hold representatives of every species on Earth, there is even less sense in presuming that it would have had enough space to hold sufficient food and drinkable water to sustain all of them over the course of approximately a year.
That any adult would take this tale seriously should be considered automatic proof of his or her mental incompetence.
~David D.G.
The camels hump was a lot bigger in those days, and the humble cacti was going through it's wild 'man-animal' phase. I can only assume Noah abused these once noble beasts to sustain his dairy section. I assure you he only milked the bull in times of desperation - which may have been pretty much all the time.
Ed says:
"You know, I don't think two cows were going to be producing enough milk to keep a pair of every other species on Earth alive."
Ed, wasn't one of those two cows a bull?
The last time I checked bulls don't give milk.
Yeah, then what are the animals drinking, milk? If that's the case, how can they still be producing it after it's run out and without the food needed for their bodies to produce said milk?
OK, then where is the animals' drinking water supply?
Not all animals produce milk that humans want to drink, and the ones who do don't produce milk all the time.
This "argument" is nearly the same blatant plot hole as in the movie "The Matrix".
The machines in "The Matrix" enslaved humanity in a virtual reality in order to harvest energy from the human bodies. Nobody ever answered the question where the poor humans get their energy from. "Conservation of energy", anybody?
I just checked on a webpage with agricultural information:
A typical milk cow needs around 25 gallons of water per day, in order to produce around 5 gallons of milk per day.
Noah's cows (and the rest of the ark's unfortunate inhabitants) would have died of dehydration in a very short time.
And this fundie's "argument" gets even more absurd when taking into account that as of the bible, there were only "two of each kind" on the ark. One male bull (which doesn't give milk), and one female.
So the milk supply would have consisted of one milk cow, one goat, one sheep. Roughly 7 gallons of milk per day in total. For an ark full with countless animals. Yeah right, that would have been plenty of water supply for every animal there...
>>Anon
This "argument" is nearly the same blatant plot hole as in the movie "The Matrix".
The machines in "The Matrix" enslaved humanity in a virtual reality in order to harvest energy from the human bodies. Nobody ever answered the question where the poor humans get their energy from. "Conservation of energy", anybody? <<
In fairness to the writers of the Matrix, they were originally going to be having the humans' brains being used as spare processing space by the machines, which isn't quite as bad.
Good math, by the way. This quote has to fall under "deliberate misinterpretation", since very few people can be so stupid.
"Noah has animals on board and could survive milk."
Yeah, I heard that Noah's wife bathed in asses' milk, just like Cleopatra. You can get a lot of juice out of J-Lo's bum.
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"There really is no need for water when you have that man animals."
Dog milk. Tastes exactly the same when it's gone off, as it does fresh.
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