So we watch him, knowing his propensity to selfish compulsion. When he seizes his bowl with intentions of dumping it, swat the offending hand with a little instrument (light wooden spoon, rubber spatula, flexible tubing less than a quarter inch in diameter, or any instrument that will cause an unpleasant sting without leaving any marks). As you swat the offending hand, say “No” in a normal commanding voice.
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any instrument that will cause an unpleasant sting without leaving any marks
After all, you wouldn't want to get caught, would you?
Translation:
The poor kid is simply experimenting with gravitation, and you punish him for it?
No wonder fundies are dumber'n shit. The spark of intelligence is snuffed in infancy.
They define an infant's native curiosity as a propensity to selfish compulsion .
Sheesh.
From a bit further down that page...
"I am sorry the psychologists and secular child advocates don’t get it, but then if all parents practiced child training as I have suggested, there wouldn’t be any need for abnormal psychologists or child protection agencies. A lot of people would move on to more practical kinds of work, and there wouldn’t be any more crime or war."
Somehow, the statistics that show crime going down with non-violent parenting escape our good child-beating friend here.
"I am sorry the psychologists and secular child advocates don’t get it, but then if all parents practiced child training as I have suggested, there wouldn’t be any need for abnormal psychologists or child protection agencies. A lot of people would move on to more practical kinds of work, and there wouldn’t be any more crime or war."
Granted, the rate of matricide and patricide would be about 95.4% percent and the average parent would live to about 35, but...
if all parents practiced child training as I have suggested, there wouldn’t be any need for abnormal psychologists
You don't have any clue how many people are in therapy to deal with the abuse their parents heaped on them, do you?
Someone should be standing behind Fundie Mike with a shovel. Every time he feels compelled to hit his child, he should be hit over the head with
Babies are babies, they have no concept of right or wrong, nor does a six-month-old have the motor control to not dump things on the floor. Get a fucking clue, and stop giving your baby a bowl full of food.
Normal household: Loving caretaker holds the bowl of rice cereal (maybe some applesauce... way too young for much solid food) and holds the spoon out for the baby to suck on, encouragingly oohing and aahing when even a little bit gets in their mouth. The food that subsequently covers a five-foot radius is cleaned up with a sigh... again.
Fundy household: The baby is given a bowl full of food, expected to figure it out if God wants him to, and physically abused if he spills any.
And we wonder why fundies seem so mentally damaged.
I love the argument that we should stop worrying about what social scientists and psychologists think, and instead listen to this shithead.
Where's your Ph.D. in child psychology from, Mike?
Mike, your kids are going to be laughing at the sounds you make sucking baby food up through a straw. Why, because you're not even going to be worth the 2 grand a month it would take to keep you in an old geezer home. Enjoy sitting in a puddle of your own filth because your kids want to see you suffer for raising them like a petty tyrant. Come to think of it, I think I'd like to see you sitting in a puddle of your own filth right now.
so you deliberately place something enticing and interesting within the reach of a child who does not have the co-ordination or the experience with the way gravity works to avoid spilling it, then, when he expresses his natural interest and curiosity by reaching for this fascinating object you call it "selfishness" and hit him for it. Even if it was selfishness, it's wrong to beat 6 month olds.
OH, I kept reading "bowl" as "bowel," no wonder I was so confused.
Ignoring my incredible moment of stupidity, it's usually enough to take the bowl from them, "no" included, asshole.
Shitshitshit, I forgot: GIVE THE BOWL BACK, STARVATION IS NOT A VALID FORM OF DISCIPLINE!
Whew, that was a close one.
"They define an infant's native curiosity as a propensity to selfish compulsion."
Very well put. These people should be arrested. For heaven's sakes, the child is curious! It's six months old. It's learning about the world. Sometimes it has to learn these things for itself; although I suppose it is the fundie mentality to stop learning dead in its tracks right when the stimulation begins.
KNOWLEDGE IS BAD, KIDS. DON'T MAKE ANY EFFORT TO DISCOVER THE WORLD AROUND YOU. YOU WILL GET HURT.
Don't leave marks.
Punching him in the stomach suffices for police interrogation - good enough for a 6-month-old. (Don't bust up too many ribs). A couple solid taps in the kidneys will get his attention, and jabs to the liver may have a delayed reaction, but ought to knock him to his knees fairly quickly. Of course, if he isn't sufficiently cowed, he will also learn from these techniques, and *ahem* you have to go to sleep "sometime".
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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