["The US Constitution is crap and the writers belong in hell. That’s a solid position. Good luck with that." ]
The framers endorsed slavery.
Yeah, they're evil even the non-slave owners. They created the conditions for the civil war. The civil war that the evil south won after the 10 year armistice.
Yeah, the 9th circle is fitting for the evil Framers. There are plenty of Americans to hang out with. Too bad they won, black people would have been freed sooner.
Fuck the framers & their white working class suckers, still suckers today.
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I guess these numbnuts got tired of cherry picking the constitution ( which now prevents slavery, which the Bible does not) and decided just to condemn it to hell like every thing else.Also, I don't remember the south winning the civil war.
The Constitution was a compromise. Without it, without the compromies allowing slavery, the South would have likely gone its own way and not been part of a country where the Civil War would have happened.
It wasn't perfect, particularly by modern standards. But for the time, it was pretty damned good.
The civil war that the evil south won after the 10 year armistice.
Um, what? I don't see any states allowing slavery any more. Of course, seeing as how we are still stuck with the South, maybe we did lose that war.
@NeoMIatrix
"I guess these numbnuts got tired of cherry picking the constitution ( which now prevents slavery, which the Bible does not) and decided just to condemn it to hell like every thing else.Also, I don't remember the south winning the civil war."
@Insult to Rocks
Everyone has the right to be heard, no matter their stance.
Pedantic disagreement here: Everyone has the right to voice their opinion, but nobody has the right to be heard. If people had the right to be heard, then others would be forced to sit and listen to them, like Huckabee said we should do for David Barton.
"We're talking about people who ENSLAVED OTHER HUMAN BEINGS. For that alone, they should've been wiped out."
In this case, you just advocated exterminating the ancestors of pretty much EVERY human being?!?!
NeoMatrix, please answer honestly: Would you, in the wake of World War II, have supported wiping out Germany or Japan?
I cannot edit my above comment anymore, but I want to stress that I am not defending slavery, especially not in the context of the US Civil War. I just think that, just like cultural relativism, presentism has to be employed carefully. And, well, the vengeful extremism of the statement is disturbing.
@NeoMatrix
I never thought I'd see the day when people on this board would be minimizing the evils of slavery.
@Mimic
Also, Germany and Japan were not nations literally built on slavery from their very creation. Both countries were far more civilized before fascist governments came to power. It's a rather poor comparison.
@#1892509
And my ancestor was an active abolitionist who helped stopped the Confederate rebellion, a fact that I'm eternally proud of. Too bad he and his peers didn't go further.
@Zach
@NeoMatrix
You hate those who deprived others of freedom and treated them with unparalleled cruelty and depravity because of an accident of being born the "wrong" race from the primitive and ignorant point of view of their slavers and I agree that slavery was one of the greatest abominations in the history of the human race, and yet you display an equally callous and cold attitude towards the decendents of those unenlightened and ignorant people, you call for the destruction of the decendents of those people, men, women, and children, who never have had, and never can have, influence over the actions of their ancestors, you would kill people, some of whom might not even know of the evils committed by their family in the past, and those who know of it and now seek to make amends in even the smallest most insignificant way, even though they know it will never be enough, by fighting, by whatever means they can, to help the decendents of the people wronged directly or indirectly by the families they come from, and to help others who even today are still considered "second class" a phrase that needs to be wiped out of our language by the way. Your idea of "justice" is as cruel and evil as the worst radical fundamentalist interpretation of the verses in the bible about the sins of the father being visited upon the son.
@#1892827
They are not really much different than their fathers. It's not the sins of the father put onto the son; it's the sins of the son that the son continued from his father.
And you question is irrelevant; none of my ancestors/relatives come from the South or owned slaves. I'm of French-Canadian, German, and Wisconsinite stock, as are the other members of my family. I know because I've actually checked it myself - I have an interest in genealogy in real life, as do my grandparents.
@NeoMatrix
According to what you have said here and elsewhere on FSTDT you believe that anyone living who does not meet your standards of what is right, of "perfection" should be killed, anyone descended from those who did not live up to your standards of "perfection" in the past should be killed. You believe that everyone living who does not meet your standards of "perfection" of what you have decided is "right" should be exterminated.
@#1892863
And if I really believed that everyone who didn't meet my standards should die, I would want everyone else on this board dead. Except I don't. Try again.
@NeoMatrix
Sorry but lately you have come across in your posts as just as much of a hate filled and intolerant person as those you look down on, calling for whole groups of people to be killed basically just for being born into, or being part of the "wrong" groups, be it families descended from people who's actions in the past you do not approve of, religions you do not agree with, or whatever else you do not like. How is this any different from some intolerant white racist
I cannot edit my above comment anymore, but I want to stress that I am not defending slavery and especially not the rebellion of the South. I just think that, just like cultural relativism, presentism has to be employed carefully. And, well, the vengeful extremism of the statement.
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