I am a descendant of the Vikings and what happened in the year 800 is that the Vikings were offered some land by France IF they gave up their Pagan beliefs and converted to Christianity. That is exactly what they did. So if the Vikings could find the truth over 1200 years ago then what is the excuse of scoffers, skeptics and infidels today who stumble around today and can not seem to find the truth? They reject a time honored tradition going back to our fathers at the beginning of recorded history and what do they get in return after having given everything? Nothing really a big fat zero. The Bible is what civilization is based on. Without the Bible you have terrorism, death, destruction and ruin. Look at the condition of the world today. We have not had a world like this sense WW2.
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Okay, I'm a descendent of the guys the Vikings feared as wizards (Finnish people), and I know you're speaking bullshit.
But hell, you give me the free land the Normans got, I'd convert to Christianity anytime.
Without the Bible you have terrorism, death, destruction and ruin
Worked fine in Ancient Greece, Ancient Rome, Ancient Germany, Ancient Finland, need I go on? But Christianity should be noted as the first religion that was spread by violence (if you discount the Hebrew boasting in the Old Testament as a factual account of history).
"The Bible is what civilization is based on."
I'm sure that claim would greatly surprise the ancient Greeks, Romans, Egyptians, Maya's or present day Chinese and Japanese. To name but a few.
Tell you what though: I'll convert for you if you pay me enough.
"Without the Bible you have terrorism, death, destruction and ruin."
- Catholics vs Protestants in Northern Ireland.
- Bombing of abortion clinics and murder of abortion providers because 'God says Thou Shalt Not Kill!!'
- Gays becoming Winston Smiths to various O'Briens in Christian 'pray away the gay' camps.
YOU WERE SAYING?
What was wrong with the land the Vikings already had in Scandinavia? Why did they want that piece of land in France so much?
Most of Spain was ruled by Muslims for hundreds of years, ending in the 16th century. If the people of Spain could find the truth of Muhammad up until four hundred years ago, what's the excuse for you not to?
With the Bible you have Inquisitions, death, destruction and ruin. As the English Empire colonized most of the world, it's still influenced by Biblical teachings, so the condition of the world today is due to the Bible too.
Oh, and it's "since", not "sense". You make little or no sense, dearie.
"We have not had a world like this snce WW2."
I'm sure the inhabitants of Vietnam, Cambodia, Rwanda and the Balkans would heartily agree, old chap.
More like:
Viking settlers of upper France were given an ultimatum by the Vatican forces who were known to be the most dictatorial murderous vicious shits any European country produced.
"WITH the Bible you have terrorism, death, destruction and ruin."
Fixed that for ya
"Look at the condition of the world today."
Yes, do. In particular very Christian America.
So if the Vikings could find the truth over 1200 years ago then what is the excuse of scoffers, skeptics and infidels today who stumble around today and can not seem to find the truth?
That you're not offering them a piece of land the size of Normandy.
...and if you had any sense, you'd know that it's spelled si nc e.
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There's an extremely good reason why Winston Churchill didn't just win a Nobel Prize for Literature , you know...!
We have had this world since WWII.
the Vikings were offered some land by France IF they gave up their Pagan beliefs and converted to Christianity.
History, dear friend, history. Not "the Vikings", but "a Viking", i.e. the leader. The rest just followed suit as was normal back then.
So, give me a nice big building on the 600 block of Fifth Avenue NY, NY, and I'll kiss your Jesus' bare behind live on the evening news.
Either this person failed history and reality or they're lying.
With the Bible we've had witch trials, Inquisition, dark ages, crusades, terrorism (IRA, Christian Identity, Army of God), the slaughter of many Native Americans.
You fail
Without the Bible you have terrorism, death, destruction and ruin.
Josh, you've never actually read the bible...have you.
So you think I should be raiding churches and monasteries until you give me huge tracts of land?
Ok, but I'm going to have to get some extra acres for going to the trouble of finding my chainmail.
The Vikings must've thought they were getting the deal of the century: Swathes of land that were much more hospitable than the places they came from, in exchange for token submission to a religion none of them understood or believed in.
They must've been laughing at the French all the way back to Scandinavia
I am a descendant of the Vikings and what happened in the year 800 is that the Vikings were offered some land by France IF they gave up their Pagan beliefs and converted to Christianity. That is exactly what they did.
So why did "the Vikings"* lay siege not once but twice after the year 800?
*There was no people called "the Vikings", viking was the term for a Norse man going on a raiding/trading tour.
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