[Is morality absolute or relative?]
ITS ABSOLUTE FOR NOW TILL GOD CHANGES IT.
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This kinda immediately brings up the question "how can you trust God? what is to stop him from kicking you into hell when he gets bored of having you in heaven?
Plus, how many wingnuts would just love for God to change his morality from helping the poor and sick etc to wiping heathens of the face of the earth? so many people already wanting and twisting verses to play God's soldiers already.
@ #1894489
"It's relatively absolute."
Or, indeed, absolutely relative?
Regards & all,
Thomas L. Nielsen
So, it's relative, and you don't know when it will be opposite of what it is now, but you'll still comply without questions?
Great!
(In a whisper: Keep him away from every responsibility, ever, 'kay?)
But you god does not exist, so why does that have any bearing on morality?
Your answer is no better than "The Prime Directive means exactly what it means, until Star Fleet changes it."
I think people are seriously confused. When Christians say "objective morality" all they mean is morality that isn't decided by the opinions of humans.
That can come from a religion, but can also come from secular concepts like "natural rights" or the idea of enhancing pleasure, minimizing pain. Under that standard you can't simply say "well I like torturing puppies personally, therefore it's moral for me".
Moral subjectivity is nonsense and unpractical for a stable civilization. It would literally be better to have some kind of a moral foundation (even a false religion) than be essentially nothing more than a moral nihilist. Under moral subjectivity literally everything goes. You have no basis to claim that anything is wrong under that system. It's all might makes right in that system and unchecked egoism.
"The Prime Directive means exactly what it means, until Star Fleet changes it."
Someone forgot about the Omega Directive. :P
Hosea 13:16.
There's the Pro-Lifers' 'cause' utterly destroyed, then.
Roe vs. Wade. Romans 13:1-5, bitches. Not seeing the Repubican party repealing that since 1973, so I guess there's your absolute morality.
Abortion has been legal in the UK since 1967. What are you fundies & right-wingers in the US going to do about it?
Your so-called 'God' ordered abortions in Hosea 13:16, so if it's okay for him...!
"ITS ABSOLUTE FOR NOW TILL GOD CHANGES IT."
Oh, so its kinda like the rules to the games I used to play with the other kids in grade school.
"Morality isn't absolute, it's a spectrum, made up of various shades of gray. Possibly even 50 shades hahahaha please kill me. "
Something like that but that's due to the context.
It's definitely not a simple black and white issue all the time, but I'm rather worried by the amount of people who respond to moral absolutism with moral subjectivity. They're actually worse.
Under a subjective morality anything depraved you can think of goes. ANYTHING, no buts.
@Anti-FSTDT
You're thinking of Moral Nihilism, and yes. Welcome to the real world. Enjoy your stay.
@Aunty-FSTDT
Okay, you're literally talking nonsense. Start making some sense if you want a reply.
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For all of WWE's 'product' being as plastic & fake as what you have on your head made from all the recycled sanitary towels you use due to your man-periods 24/7/365, WWE CEO Vince McMahon's hair is real , Wiggy.
Not telling lies - or being true to yourself, immigration-wise - is relative too, Donny-boy.
Do you still think the left -wing Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn is a supporter of yours, Donald Fart?
Well there are any number of things considered absolute/objective about our Universe which could change without a moment's notice if for example the Simulation Hypothesis were true.
This isn't actually as contradictory/nonsensical as it looks at first glance.
@Anti-FSTDT
"@Mister Spak
Okay, you're literally talking nonsense. "
You started it. If you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen.
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