I have always felt that divorce was too easy in the USA. What we need to do is change the law to outlaw divorce in the US. The next thing we must do is force people who are divorced out of public office and the church. We need to set an example in both places and anyone who has failed at marriage should not hold a leadership position in either.
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Yeah, you go ahead and campaign for that. In fact, I would give you money to get started, for the sole reason that as soon as this level of fucktarded insanity is widely and publicly associated with fundamentalist Christianity, fundie influence in politics will die faster than Christ on a cross.
You know,,,, for someone who was supposedly not married, christ (and his followers) have an awful lot to say about marriage!
It's marriage that is too easy. If everyone who wanted to get married was required to successfully complete an extended training and counseling course with his/her intended, I'd wager that there would be fewer marriages between people too immature and selfish to make good spouses...and hence fewer divorces.
And anyone who fails in business should not hold a leadership position either, like say, President. You never know what might happen. They may end up getting the country trillions of dollars into debt, give tax cuts to the wrong people or just generally fuck things up for everyone. You know, hypothetically speaking of course, because no-one would ever vote them in anyway, so I think we are pretty safe there.
Why, and to what effect?
What would you do to prevent divorce?
When you start interfering with personal relationships, you cross a line. What's next, you determining who can have children and who cannot?
Although marriage is taken too lightly these days by many, I don't see that there is anything you can do about it. Because along with those who take it too lightly there are those who finally have the freedom and ability to walk away from a rotten experience. No one needs to live unhappily ever after simply because they signed a marriage license.
Fundie? Maybe. Ignorant and arrogant, yes.
Well seeing how the bible belt has the highest divorce rate, we wouldn't have to deal with fundies in the Fed. Senate, Fed. Congress, State Senates, State Congresses, Mayors, Judges, or School Board positions.
Sounds great! Let's do it!!!
But if they stay married while beating their wife, they should be immediately offered a church position and be elected to public office.
I'd also like to add that marriage is the leading cause of divorce.
You, good sir, are an a-hole.
Divorce is too easy, I agree. But, fortunately, that is no-one's business but the people getting divorced! Not all people get divorced over trivial matters, and they usually did not "fail" at marriage; they just married someone who is abusive or who do they don't really love because of any variety of miscues that can happen (especially in a society that pressures you to marry a person before you even have sex...leaving you to find out that they are into S & M on your honeymoon...).
So, rather that allowing people to step back and go "Y'know what? This isn't working," you'll not only force them to stay together, but persecute those who have divorced. Classy. Not to mention the influx of "accidental" deaths in unhappy households, as well.
When I went into the US Navy in 1969 I was told that getting a divorce would destroy your career as an officer. When asked why we were told that in your life you only had to take three solemn oaths; to your god, your country and your wife. To fail at any one of the three left questions about the other two. They were like a three legged stool, rock solid until you lose a single leg.
I suggest OneNewsNow would take this to heart and make an example of anyone who has ever changed religion, countries or wives.
This is because I do not believe he will accept the life lesson that I took away from this :
In this life there are really some inflexible, judgmental assholes making up the rules.
@Paradox
That's about the mindset, too.
Things got a little hot and heavy in the backseat of the car, and you got knocked up. Abortion? WRONG! You're saddled with the little bastard! And don't come looking for handouts, either!
Come to a realization that you and your significant other just aren't right for each other. Divorce? WRONG! Suck it up, buttercup!
First, who is "we?" Second, who the fuck made you the arbiter of all that is right and proper? Third, DIAF.
Yes because it's much better for children to be raised in an atmosphere of hate.
How about people who fail at business? Should they be allowed to run a country? I think business sense is a much more important barometer.
Even if I could understand their belief in the insistence of only one marriage on religious grounds, WHY THE HELL IS IT THE JOB OF THE STATE TO ENFORCE THIS?
The state doesn't kick people out of office for failing to pray to Allah or for eating pork, so why the hell should they endorse marriage principles on the basis of supposedly Christian "ethics"?
"The next thing we must do is force people who are divorced out of public office and the church."
Well, there goes, like, half of the politicians out there.
Sorry to wake you up, but perfection doesn't exist. A person who has responsabilities has failed in many things in life, whether they have divorced or not. We're not angels and, as long as they do their job well, I see no problem.
@ tmr
“When you start interfering with personal relationships, you cross a line. What's next, you determining who can have children and who cannot?”
Of course. It’s the next logical step. Only white, Christian, preferably Aryan men and women are morally fit to raise the next generation and assure that these children are not condemned to hell.
One Volk! One Reich! One Fuehrer! /sarcasm
Damn, the Southern Baptists would be out of business, they have the highest divorce rate of anybody, and it would affect some religions as well. WHOA, wouldn't you religio-nazis at AFA be cutting your own throats with this rule? Damn that would almost make it worthwhile.
I think the law, as here in France, should force all religion out of politics on every level. Anyyone who insists on touting religion should not be allowed into politics - or even to vote. And Commenter should be sent to the guillotine.
Oh, what's that? We don't judicially kill people in France? And all those lovely guillotines have been put in mothballs? That must be since we got religion out of politics.
Commenter here seems to forget that there WAS a time when getting divorced in the U.S. was more difficult.
You know what happened, before we instituted modern "no-fault divorce" laws?
Married folks would lie on the witness stand about having had affairs that never happened, just so that the judge would grant them a divorce on the grounds of adultery.
We made it easier to get divorced precisely because our old, stricter divorce laws were ruining too many people's lives.
Actually, the whole concept of intolerance toward any kind of failure is a VERY Christian idea... after all, tossing people in hell infinitely for finite sins is definitely setting an example to make sure that you're always perfect your first time doing anything, unless of course you put your hope in the gruesome torture of the Loving God's only son.
This reminds me of an article I read. A husband had went crazy and microwaved their baby, and the wife still wanted to stay with him because Jesus wants people to stay together. She was actually trying to get him legal custody of the infant after it was barely saved. To the person who said that, this situation is clearly acceptable.
well, hey now, this ain't such a bad idea. After all, you'd have got rid of about half the senate. Not a bad start.
remember, there is no escape form an abusive spouse so choose right?
Kind of like Russian roulette with mating
Blayze Kohime: I heard about that today. Absolutely horrific! I hope the baby turns out okay, and that someone shoves a rusty tire iron up that guy's ass. :'( We can take comfort (I hope) in the belief that no sane judge would give that guy custody of a CD player, let alone a baby.
To the OP: My first marriage was abusive. It ended 3 years ago, thanks to a no-fault divorce I was able to file without being able to reach him (I'm in the US, he was in China at the time). I'm still recovering from some of it. My current (wonderful) husband helps. Fuck you for thinking you have any say in my life/welfare/happiness.
"I also said that the biggest threat to marriage was divorce, and that there should be a three-strikes-you're-out rule. Rush Limbaugh shouldn't be allowed to marry again. Newt Gingrich? Sorry. You're stuck with the congressional staffer you chose as your third, and if I had my way, final wife."
---Al Franken,
"What we need to do is change the law to outlaw divorce in the US"
Yeah, good luck with that. Especially taking into account that (mainly in the Mid-West & 'Bible Belt' states) the divorce rate is 1 in 2.
"We need to set an example"
Like Jimmy Swaggart? He's such a shining paragon of fidelity, amirite? As I said above (but bears repeating), good luck with that.
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