It is very intriqing though that taking the biblical prophecy and using all the math from Israel becoming a complete nation once again I believe in 1967 and using Jesus own words that once you see these things quote, "nation shall rise against nation, & kingdom against kingdom" etc., and of couse the most pertinent clue when Jesus said "When you shall see the budding of the fig tree (Israel) know that the time is near" "For this generation shall not pass away until ALL these things be fulfilled".
A generation is the key, does it mean say 20,40,60 or so years, or does it mean the very last person BORN during this generation shall see ALL be fulfuilled.
I believe it to mean the very last person stll alive will see the fulfllment of all the prophecy.
So since I know the oldest person alive is 125 years old, take 1967 (when Israel regained the temple mount in 6 dsys war) and add the 125 for the age of the last person stlll alive and you get 2092.
Another very interesting thing is that if you take the number of man which is 666 and divide it by 2092 you get Pi, or the perfect number which is a CIRCLE and can't be computed as it is infinite.
Could this be the complete circle of Gods plan? I don't know, but it's very compelling. Also Jesus said no man can know the day nor the hour, He didn't say the year.
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"Another very interesting thing is that if you take the number of man which is 666 and divide it by 2092 you get Pi, or the perfect number which is a CIRCLE and can't be computed as it is infinite."
Really? Let's try it.
Pi = 3.14159265...
666/2052 = 0.318355...
Not exactly close. Let's assume he meant the other way round.
2052/666 = 3.141141141...
Well, it's closer than the Babble's wild guess about pi, which was 3. But it's still a great big MATHS FAIL.
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666/2092 =/= pi
Assuming you meant divide 2092 by 666
2092/666 = 3.14114114114114 =/= pi
close, but no cigar
Either God is a lousy mathematician or you are wrong. Oh and by the way : "Then the Lord said "My Spirit will not remain in man for ever, for he is corrupt; his days will be a hundred and twenty years"" Genesis 6:3
If this bit of the Bible has been proven wrong by the evidence you are showing ("since I know the oldest person alive is 125 years old"), why should this passage that you have taken from the other end of the book be any more accurate or reliable?
Edit: CalRC got there first with the maths
Pi, Smi.
I think 0.31835564054 is close enough to Pi...well..if you multiply by 10, first.
WorldNutDaily has a great article about a book exposing a new Bible code. For instance:
"Babylon fell to the Medes and Persians on the 16th day of Tishri of the Jewish calendar, which correlates to Oct. 12, 539 B.C. Curiously, the number 539 is also the distance in statute miles between the temple of Jerusalem's foundation stone to the palace of Balthazar, as confirmed by modern satellite measurement."
I'd buy it and read it except that if I start buttressing my faith with such unimpeachable facts, I will no longer require faith: it will be weakened.
This is "Medinat Yisrael", not "Erets Yisrael", meaning the *state* of Israel, not the biblical "Land of Israel". IIRC, that has to wait for the Mashiach (messiah) to come and start it. Alas, if you are correct, then he is already dead, and the prophecy cannot be completed.
Oh, and math fail, of course.
Uh, excuse me, but the oldest manuscript fragment of that part of Rev. show the number of the beast to be 616.
Did you know that when one divides 616 by 10 the result is the number of active brain cells in your pathetic, little head?
Nation always has risen against nation and kingdom against kingdom.
Compared to the centuries before we live in rather peaceful times now, with less major conflicts than before.
Old Viking for the win.
Boilermakers are on me.
@ Cosmic Muffin
The Bible Code was pretty much a fail, actually. After all the hype died down, someone pointed out that you can get pretty much anything you want from the Bible or any book. I think the researcher who gave (relative) proof found "I am proud to be a dougnut" in Leviticus.
I knew this was in error before I tried it on my calculator. Any number divided by another, i.e. a fraction gives a rational or infinitely repeating number, but p is irrational. It has been carried out to thousands of places and never shown to repeat, so it can’t be expressed as a fraction. 3.14114114114
is close, about 0.0004515
to p, but not exact.
"nation shall rise against nation, & kingdom against kingdom"
OMG! Only a true prophet could predict that a WAR will happen in the future! There was absolutely no prior evidence that such an unprecedented event could occur...none at all...
""When you shall see the budding of the fig tree (Israel) know that the time is near"
OMG! Random symbolism interpretted so that it confirms what I want it to! What more proof do you need!?
"Also Jesus said no man can know the day nor the hour, He didn't say the year."
But what if "day nor the hour" was a metaphor for time! Oh noez! The ability to liberally interpret Bible passages is backfiring on you!
"When you shall see the budding of the fig tree (Israel) know that the time is near" "For this generation shall not pass away until ALL these things be fulfilled".
What a lot of crap. The parable of the fig tree is an analogy. Jesus says "just as you know summer is coming by the budding of the fig tree, so when you see a bunch of apocalyptic stuff happening* you know that the kingdom of God is near at hand and this generation shall not pass away until all (whatever the hell "all" is) is fulfilled .
This was around 30AD, so I think we can be pretty sure "this generation" has passed away and Matthew, Mark and Luke (who were probably copying each other anyway) were full of crap. Besides, where does all this "Israel" (1948 , not 1967, BTW) stuff come from? And since when did we see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory?
*signs in the sun, moon, and stars; distress of nations; sea and the waves roaring; men's hearts failing them for fear and seeing the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
The only thing circling is the fly around your empty skull.
Revelation was written by an insane hermit who sodomised goats, but the RCC came to the conclusion that this was a good way to keep thier dwindling flocks in line.
22/7 gives a better approximation, but 4*ATN(1) is as close as you can get.
Here's an interesting math thing with 666 that is correct: Sin 666 X -2 = phi, which is a number that has dozens of interesting mathematical equations. Nothing unique, though, it also works for 306, 1026, 1386, and so on.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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