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smartmouthwoman #fundie allforums.net

I did NOT say the killer was an atheist. However, I did mean... and still do believe that the young man was influenced by the hatred AGAINST CHRISTIANS spread by atheists today. That belief is stated in the first sentence of my short message -- "Some say Christians are dangerous... and some non-believers take that message to heart."

I believe if there was not so much hatred for Christians being expressed by atheists today, this deranged young man might not have told his friends how much he HATED Christians. He might not have found the fuel he needed to twist off and decide to murder innocent people.

It's really funny how everyone is going to such great lengths to brand ME a spreader of hate simply because I had the nerve to point out the TRUE spreaders of hate... atheists.

Guess the truth really does hurt the guilty.

smartmouthwoman #fundie allforums.net

(About the Colorado church shooting)

It's my opinion the murderer will be revealed to be a non-believer. Whether he's a confirmed atheist or simply a former Christian who's lost his way I won't venture to guess about. I never said one word about the church being free of sin and sinners, nor did I say I believe in their mission. Are you pointing to the transgressions of a church leader and their 'pushing their evangelical beliefs' in an effort to say the innocent people who were murdered DESERVED to be killed?

See, it's people who say things like 'it's no surprise that something like this has happened' who scare me. Like I said... hate breeds hate. And it seems to breed exceedingly well among people with no belief in God.

SMW

Foolsworth #fundie #wingnut allforums.net

The ACLU is a Big Brother watchdog bully.They have filed and won
many a public sq. debate about a Manger/Menorah display.
They generally take on smaller venues or city where their
huge clout and backing can outswindle a smaller budget.
California has many examples where the ACLU sought out
small city's where Religious crosses or Icons were openly displayed.
Plus the case of that Federal judge who was ordered by law
to remove the Ten Commandments Statue in his Courthouse.
Macy's,Federated and other big chains also faced the wrath of ACLU
an it's Agenda.
" If the ACLU and it's allies have their way,said ADF President Alan Sears,
" future generations won't have warm memories of Christmas.Instead,their
recollections will be of cold,impersonal,secular 'winter breaks'".!

smartmouthwoman #fundie allforums.net

[Originally Posted by rendova
I can think of a few example offhand, SMW--the Spanish Inquisistion--the Catholic persecution of the Moors (Muslims) and Jews--- the various pogroms against Jews by Christians-- in Eastern Europe throught the Middle Ages and even into modern times, the Aztecs being wiped out by the conquistadores, tho an argument could be made that the Spaniards desired their downfall because of greed, and not religion.

......and then there's the Third Reich. Hitler always claimed he was fighting a religious war and no other.]

Ancient history aside, Ren... all the Christians I've ever known have been peace-loving people. Guess I just missed out on ever meeting any vigilante bible thumpers. And I think it's a stretch for non-believers to reach back in time to try and prove they exist.

smartmouthwoman #fundie allforums.net

God help us if atheists ever do unite. As evidenced by the totally unprovoked mass murders of innocent people in Christian facilities in Colorado over the weekend, what the world doesn't need is a united atheist front on a mission to wipe out those who disagree with their beliefs.