A team of planetary scientists has now found water ice and organic compounds on two asteroids. The team leader asserts that this shows that the asteroids seeded the earth with the elements of life. But the real answer is that the asteroids came from earth, and carried water and germs with them, on the occasion of the Global Flood.
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How do these people think that the flood was so violent it shot out chuncks of the earth into deep space yet didn't so much as crack Noah's shoddy wooden boat? Even our modern ships would have problems in a rather heavy storm, which is nothing compared to what would be required to make freaking asteroids shoot away from earth...
Noah's boat was also made from wood and around the size of an aircraft carrier so it wouldn;t have survived on water, or at all, as wood is too soft. People who believe in the Bible are retards. Not even the Catholic church takes it at face value. It's predominantly white US fuckwits who believe it. I propose a cull.
What the fuck? No seriously, what the FUCK?!
The flood sent asteroids out that somehow magically broke out of Earth's then stronger atmosphere?!?
o_O
@ Night Jaguar
Yes, yes you are, but sometimes it is fun to be isn't it ;)
As for the rest of this retarted shit, I just have to say, ummmmmmm NO!
A team of planetary scientists has now found water ice and organic compounds on two asteroids.
This isn't exactly new information.
The team leader asserts that this shows that the asteroids seeded the earth with the elements of life.
They asserted this as a fact, or you say they asserted this as a fact? I'm gonna have to go with the later seeing as how no trained or credible scientist is going to make a definitive assertion based on a single data point.
But the real answer is that the asteroids came from earth, and carried water and germs with them, on the occasion of the Global Flood.
1)Water ice of the same relative composition as earth's water has long been to exist in space. 2)Simple organic compounds have been proven to both exist and form in space, germs are far, far more complicated than simple organic compounds and ould never, ever be mistaken as such. 3) Would you care to explain under what circumstances a flood, global or not, could possibly cause rocks to not only reach escape velocity, but also escape orbit?
From the same guy who brought you this about planet Mars:
"it makes a complete orbit in 687 days. Its synodic year is 26 months, which makes the scheduling of exploratory missions difficult."
If scientists only could build some kind of portable chronometric increment device, to export our earthly time...
Just briefly read the full article on Examiner.com, the guy's a muppet. If he has to force himself to believe the nonsense that he does, never mind force himself to spout the asinine drivel that he does, then he's created a new sub-muppet low of creomuppet. He's, unwittingly perhaps, turned himself in to a brainless caricature of himself, a figure of fun, a mockworthy dolt. Talk about seeing fairies at the bottom of the garden? Blimey! This guy makes fairy believers look like super scientists.
"But the real answer is that the asteroids came from earth, and carried water and germs with them, on the occasion of the Global Flood."
Can't say I didn't see that one coming.
Yeah, or maybe Satan stole pieces of the earth and put them up there to taunt us. Or, wait ... I just made up yet another explanation out of thin air: after Adam and Eve were kicked out of the Garden, God removed the garden from the earth and threw it out into space, where it withered and disintegrated.
Where did extraterrestrial life come from?The Asteroid!
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BTW, as for being a 12-year-old in my own mind, I've always felt that Assteroids would be a far funnier name for hemmorhoids. And what the hell, they come from Uranus. Heh heh heh.
But the real answer is that the asteroids came from earth, and carried water and germs with them, on the occasion of the Global Flood.
Buoyancy and physics, how do they work?
Occam's Razor states that the simplest answer is often the correct one.
The real answer is, Satan put a booger on those rocks to challenge the faithful!
You should sell your brain on eBay Terry. You'll get a fortune! It's barely used!
So how does a global flood (yet there is no evidence indicating a global flood, also notice that I don't capitalize "global flood") cause chunks of Earth to fly out into outer space? Yet those chunks somehow managed to maintain an orbit that keeps them moving throughout the solar system.
By the way, you mentioned organic compounds, which is not the same as living organisms. Then again, you're a creationist fuckwit and no evidence would ever convince you differently since your mind is made up.
When I first read this, I read "water ice and organic compounds" as water being an adjective to describe ice. But why would anyone do that? How many other types of ice are there? Then I thought that maybe Mr. Hurlbut had some sort of allergy to commas and actually meant "water, ice, and organic compounds" -- but that would still be listing water twice, so that would still be redundant.
And I'm only focusing on the stupidity of that one, small section of a sentence because I can only deal with so much stupidity at one time -- and the overall stupidity of the entire quote is just overwhelming.
A team of planetary scientists has now found water ice and organic compounds on two asteroids.
Man, Rita's is everywhere nowadays.
@ Angua --
That's "water ice" as opposed to, say, frozen methane or carbon dioxide or...well, just about anything else along those lines. Not sure how common the terminology is among actual planetary scientists, but it's pretty standard in the "science articles written for a general somewhat-educated audience" field.
They've spotted the spectroscopic signal of water thousands of lightyears away--entire clouds composed of almost nothing but, enough to make billions of balls of pure water, each the size of this planet.
Did that come from the Flood, too?
@ Professor M--
Thanks, I stand corrected. (And feeling rather stupid too, come to think of it. People refer to frozen carbon dioxide all the time . . . and a lot those people don't know all that much about science.)
Be a big feckin' asteroid to seed the earth with all its water.
So now the Earth spits out asteroids during the Flood, as mentioned...NOWHERE in scripture, but that's better by you than plain ol' science?
Please explain how these rocks managed to launch themselves away from the planet at escape velocity.
And no, goddidit is not an acceptable answer.
Wow. Now I know....the REAL answer..... As opposed to the fake scientific answer. So, just how did those asteriods depart the earth and fling into space on the particular vectors that they now travel? Caught a rather large wave in the flood and went airborne? Other than your fantasy, is there any "real" evidence to support your asteroids from earth model?
Oh, so before it rained, the earth exploded...I see
*slips off to call the psych ward*
The terrible thing is that Mr. Hurlbut doesn't even realize is that discovering extraterrestrial rocks with frozen terrestrial bacteria in them would be an absolutely huge discovery - in terms of biology AND astronomy.
If even one asteroid made it off-planet with water and frozen bacteria, that would suggest that this sort of interaction is not unique. It still wouldn't clear up the origins of life on Earth (did life organize itself here, or was it planted here from beyond? Are we the seeders, or the seeded?) - but just the idea that it's possible for a chunk of life-bearing material to be sent off beyond our biosphere, to other planets and beyond, would be just massive.
(With a name like Hurlbut, it has to be a poe.)
There is a Youtube creationist named Nephilimfree who has quite the theory about the flood. The water started below the earth's crust which cracked and squeezed it all out flinging water and rocks into space (causing the craters on the moon by the way) enough fell back to earth to rain for 40 days.. yadda yadda yadda. Suffice to say, if you want to lose a few IQ points, or need a case study for a doctoral thesis then check this guy out.
One of the asteroids that water ice and organic compounds were detected on was 65 Cybele .
This main-belt asteroid is 270 kilometers across , and weighs nearly twenty quadrillion tonnes .
this huge , fast enough for it to leave Earth's gravity , is a phenomnal feat. That this rock is now in the main asteroid belt , orbiting the sun in a nearly circular orbit that never gets closer to the sun than three times the Earth-sun distance , means that there has to have been a second shove on this rock after it left the Earth , just as hard as the first shove, to circularize its orbit.
That the Book of Genesis describes the flood in detail but mentions neither this monumental ejection of rock and ice, nor the interplanetay game of billiards played on the rock when it arrived at the asteroid belt , goes beyond incredulous.
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“The team leader asserts that this shows that the asteroids seeded the earth with the elements of life.”
"But the real answer is that the asteroids came from earth, and carried water and germs with them, on the occasion of the Global Flood.”
Ever drive a car through a sprinkler at a high rate of speed? The water falls off, doesn’t it? Slides to the back and drips off.
We shoot SLBM’s out of submarines while under quite a bit of ocean water. I cannot imagine that any water makes it to space where the warheads are deployed. Certainly not enough to show up for spectrum analysis.
This is a claim that really, really, REALLY needs a second thought. Or a first one.
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