Nice try. What about the religion of secular humanism? We have 48 million dead human babies slaughtered on its altar of "choice".
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"Natural abortions" happen more often than the ones you condemn doctor's doing. Perhaps you should be attacking your own little God for murdering more babies than anyone or anything in the history of humankind.
Unless, of course, potential human life isn't human life in which case your asshole God is off the hook and you lost your pathetically fragile position.
"We have 48 million dead human babies slaughtered on its altar of "choice"."
Far better to sacrifice them on the altar of starvation. You already have the worst child poverty rates in America of any developed nation, and you want to add to the problem?
Not all pro-choicers are secular humanists, and, believe it or not, not all secular humanists are pro-choice, after all, if your ethical system is based on the idea that human intelligence is special and worth preserving, you have to weigh the ethics of ending a potential human life most carefully, some atheists/humanists come down against abortion for this reason.
You fail to understand Pro Choice.
For instance, I myself am "pro life".
Aka if I get someone pregnant, I would want to keep the child. (Not like these douchebags who think that their moral way is the only way)
However it is not my decision. The rules for me being "pro life" is my choice in the matter. The mother's is needed too.
I can ask her to not abort and indeed offer to raise the child myself. But it is ultimately her decision whether or not she wants to keep it. My morality (atheistic and scientific) comes from the concept that actions have repercussions and sometimes children happen. And I quite like children. I intend to have some someday.
You can be both pro life and pro choice at the same time. Who says what morality works for me will work for you?
Well, for starters, it's not a religion.
And alsomore, abortion is not a required part of that ideology, though supporting the option of it is probably common among secular humanists.
@FMG: Yeah people fucking act like pro-choice means they HAVE to have abortions. Seriously, it's just a damn option, if you don't want it, don't ask for it. If you get it anyway, sue for malpractice!
@Grogs
'COURSE not! The harlot got herself into the situation, she should figure it out on her own. Why should he crack open his coffers to look after someone that couldn't even keep her legs together. She should have just told that rapist "NO means NO!"
:p, just in case someone needs a Poe's Law flag.
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Yeah, that's the thing...people will wave oops children like some sort of battle flag. "I CHOSE to have the child, even though it was an accident/rape baby/horrendously disabled. Take THAT aborters!" Guess what? You exercised the choice we are fighting to keep. No one forced you to carry the child. No one attacked you with a coat hanger, either. You were able to conceive and carry on your own terms.
Oh, give it up. None of you care about the kyoot widdle baybeez, your only concern is that people exactly like you get into power and give you the society (read: theocracy) that you think you deserve. A pseudo-1950s world where nigras and wimmenz know their place and white christian males own their gawdly famuhlees.
Oh yeah, and a world population nudging 7 billion "little miracles" is quite enough, kthnxbai.
Abrahamic religion is violent?! Well, this other group of people is violent by some arbitrary definition too, so nyah, nyah!
Babies are killed through abortion? No.
Also, I wonder if Docc is the kind of prolifer that support war and torture and oppose UHC?
a blastocyst is a not a baby, it is an undifferentiated lump of cells which bears more resemblance to a tumor then a baby.
Most abortions take place when the embryo isn't much more then a blastocyst.
Also something like 35 to 50 percent of pregnancies result in spontaneous abortions, often before the mother even realizes she's pregnant. Obviously god is not anti-abortion.
You're absolutely right, Docc!
Instead of murdering those innocent fetuses, we should force their mother to carry them to term, let them be given up for adoption, wait for them to turn to lives of crime, then arrest them and execute them instead! Or have them get adopted by Irqai families so we can drop bombs on them.
Because once it's been born, killing it isn't murder any more.
Secular = not religious.
Also, just because I don't like abortion, doesn't mean that I have to agree with you.
I have had a miscarriage. Does that mean that I'm a murderer?
"religion of secular"
sec·u·lar /'s?ky?l?r/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[sek-yuh-ler] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
adjective
1. of or pertaining to worldly things or to things that are not regarded as religious, spiritual, or sacred; temporal: secular interests.
idiot
The level of abortions performed in the USA had been dropping every year for the past couple of decades (29.3 abortions per 1,000 women in 1981 to 19.4 in 2005), largely due to better birth control information getting out to sexually active teens.
At least it was dropping before those abstinence-only programs started. Guess whose idea those were?
For what it's worth, the USA has the worst infant mortality rate of any western country. You're great at trying to protect them while they're in the womb, but you don't give a fuck about them once they're born.
Pro-Life indeed.
secular humanism is technically a religion I think. It has no core beliefs, gospels, rules, etc. though outside of valuing humanity above being a slave to an absent super power.
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