The atheists & homosexuals have recently (within the last 15 to 20 years) taught some chimpanzees & bonobos (small chimpanzees) to engage in homosexual acts. They filmed these things in wild-life preserves that were meant to look like their natural habitat. This was all so homosexuals could say that apes were doing these things. Some atheists & homosexuals know of this film and will direct your attention to it as proof that homosexuality is 'natural.' Just beware. A lot of wild-life documentaries involve staged scenarios, otherwise it would have been impossible to get some of the shots. A famous incident is where some rodent was said to commit mass suicide 'naturally,' by jumping off the side of a mountain. The truth was the 'mountain' was a televised studio table meant to look like their natural habitat, and the rodents were simply trying to get off the table, not commit suicide. It took many years to expose this fraud. Some biologists thought it was real (it was meant to appear real), and wrote books about it.
Final word: apes are not naturally homosexual, but some atheists, and/or homosexuals will tell you of the film of the chimps.
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Lemmings are the rodents you're talking about and it's true that Disney used a turntable to fling some off of a cliff for a staged documentary scene.
However, to assume that any documentary dealing with apes, chimps or any related species is staged, is idiotic. This is wishful thinking. Worse, it's trying to use one incident to discredit observable behavior.
You're either too stupid to see the difference between a (cruel and unjustifiable) staged incident and nature, or are being purposefully dishonest about it to push your silly religious beliefs.
Either way, you're wrong.
"The atheists & homosexuals have recently (within the last 15 to 20 years) taught some chimpanzees & bonobos (small chimpanzees) to engage in homosexual acts."
We have?
I dont recall teaching any chimpanzees to engage in tastefull decorating.
While Disney and Mutual of Omaha both staged overly dramatic displays for television in the 1950s and 60s, neither is considered a credible source of science.
I have never heard a homosexual or a fellow atheist refer to these films you talk about. I have however visited the Metro Toronto Zoo, where I saw two male gorillas happily boinking.
And we would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for those pesky christians.
Tyrone is quite correct in stating that a secret cabal of atheists and homosexuals have been training apes in homosexual practices. They now phone their mothers 3 times a day and can tastefully furnish a small house in under 6 hours. They are also good listeners and fabulous dancers. Interestingly, the subjects stated that they weren't stupid enough to believe in mythology, so no atheism training was required.
In phase 2 of our fiendish experiment, we will train some christians to walk upright, ride a tricycle, drink from the spout of a teapot, and hang from a branch with one hand whilst furiously masturbating with the other.
Chimpanzees and bonobos managed to learn to engage in homosexual acts all by themselves. Bonobos have sex with anyone and everyone; it's their way of saying "hello". Didn't you know?
There is a species of lizards, where there are only females. They have no choice but to engage in homosexual acts. Did "the atheists & homosexuals" teach them that too?
Do you have any evidence of all the things you are accusing people of? Any at all?
Am I the only one who finds it laughable that this guy thinks we could teach any animal pairing -- be it gay or straight -- how to have sex? I keep thinking of every time any zoo has gotten two pandas together in hope that they would mate and maybe, you know, save the entire species.
Wild-life preserves sounds like jam.
Don't tell me, they all had a brain storming session and came up with "if we could, like, you know, get the chimps to, like, bang each other.... that would make us look totally natural. Or somethin"
You're an idiot.
So the bigots find a way to "explain away" something and move the goal post.
This is what happens when shown proof that destroys their argument. Rather than rethink their beliefs of begrudging say "you're right", they make up junk to "explain" it away...or say "IT'S A CONSPIRACY BY DA JOOOOOZZZZ/Other group bigots & zealots hate"!
On top of that, THIS IS THE STUPIDEST THING I'VE EVER HEARD!
CSTDT and once again I wonder why we even bother debating with lunatics like this. Seriously, if they are so into their ideology that they won't have a basic trust that evidence brought forth by you might actually be factual, the best thing to do is to lock them into a looney bin and force them to take meds.
Anybody with a pet animal will know how hard it is to train an animal in even the basic level of good habits and that to control its sexuality is impossible without the sn*p (my dog is within hearing range of my keyboard, so I had to be careful not to bring any bad memories back for him).
Since there is evidence of homosexuality in lions, I would like to know who climbed into their cage and "trained" them in new sexual practices! No doubt Tyrone will fill us all in with evidence of his wild assertions and that will shut us all up. I'll just sit here and twiddle my thumbs whilst he digs that evidence out.
Tum ti tum..... la la la.... yep, I'm still waiting Tyrone (whistles casually...).
Yes. We spend all of our time teaching apes to have buttsex. It's a massive conspiracy, and everyone from Richard Dawkins on down is in on it. We do it just so we can send more people to hell so our lord and master, Lucifer, can poke them in the anus with an everburning pitchfork. Good thing you follow a rational worldview, which requires you to murder innocent people because your loving god hates them.
Basically marriage will be completely destroyed, families will be destroyed, children will be hurt by this and freedom of speech and freedom of religion,
Please explain your theory and your evidence to support it. Just saying it doesn't make it so. All you voiced is an opinion. Your opinions are not my laws.
Basically marriage will be completely destroyed, families will be destroyed, children will be hurt by this and freedom of speech and freedom of religion,
Please explain your theory and your evidence to support it. Just saying it doesn't make it so. All you voiced is an opinion. Your opinions are not my laws.
Okay, I needed a good laugh. Thanks, Tyrone.
Go into a cage in a zoo and teach a male chimpanzee to have gay sex. I'll keep the film running, and I promise to call your next-of-kin when the chimp rips your head off.
Even if I were to grant your conspicuously unsupported claim as true, you would still have no justification for homophobic attitudes. Even if, for the sake of argument, homosexuality was only observed in humans, that doesn't move you an inch further on having any say whatsoever in the lives of consenting adults in a relationship.
Mr. R's message is a lie, produced in order to grant himself and his ridiculous cohort unjustifiable authority over the lives of people about whom they know nothing.
It's time for me to come clean.
I was a member of that team.
It was hard, it was long, it was distastful. It hurt physically.
I'll never forget their big sad eyes looking at me as I performed the same actions for the umpteenth time.
Y'know, the hardest part is the fact that they never write.
Did they stage the homosexual acts for dolphins, lions, bison, giraffes, sheep, elephants, vultures, and penguins?
Oh wait, what about dragonflies, fruit flies, and lizards?
"The atheists & homosexuals have recently (within the last 15 to 20 years) taught some chimpanzees & bonobos (small chimpanzees) to engage in homosexual acts."
I'll give you points for coming up with a new lie instead of relying on the old standards.
"A famous incident is where some rodent was said to commit mass suicide 'naturally,' by jumping off the side of a mountain. The truth was the 'mountain' was a televised studio table meant to look like their natural habitat, and the rodents were simply trying to get off the table, not commit suicide. It took many years to expose this fraud. Some biologists thought it was real (it was meant to appear real), and wrote books about it."
That's not how science works, nimrod.
No credible biologist is going to watch a documentary on fucking TV and then try to write a book about what they saw.
"Final word: apes are not naturally homosexual, but some atheists, and/or homosexuals will tell you of the film of the chimps."
Keep telling yourself this. I wouldn't want your apparently shaky grip on reality to shatter or anything.
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