But Gay Marriage is not a right Marriage itself is a religious ceremony... I doubt gay people could be religious anyway...
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There are lots of gay Christians. I have no idea why, but there are. I have even known some.wedding is often a religious ceremony (though it doesn't have to be), but marriage is a government-acknowledge legal status.
~David D.G.
In our society it is the State that decides who can and cannot be married, not the church. The State merely gives the power to churches to officate at the ceremony,. It can also be taken away. You are a dumbass.
Marriage itself is a religious ceremony
Nope, totally wrong.
In Germany, it was even forbidden by law since Bismarck's times until some years ago that a religious wedding takes place before the civil marriage. You HAD to go first to the civil registrar. After that, you were free to go to a church. The church is optional. The civil registrar is NOT optional. Doing a religious wedding without a civil marriage was a punishable offense.
The reason for this law: To make absolutely clear that the civil ceremony is the real thing, and that the religious ceremony is nothing but a nice, but nevertheless irrelevant ritual. This law was introduced when the churches became too impertinent and claimed barefaced that only them have the right to marry people, and too many people did a religious marriage and thought wrongly that they were now legally married. Bismarck introduced this law to put the churches back into their place.
"I doubt gay people could be religious anyway..."
I take it that you have never condescended to actually talk to any gay people, or possibly (gasp) get to know them as human beings.
Mmmkay. First, marriage has some religious basis, perhaps, but that religious basis can be wholly circumvented, and the legal status will remain. At it's core, in today's society, it is a legal contract first. Any religious connotations are added after the fact, if at all. Second, there are plenty of homosexual Christians. And homosexuals of all other faiths. Much as you would like to believe we are soulless fuck machines, we are...brace yourself for it...human beings, too.
Unfortunately, gays CAN be religious.
And yet you still presume to tell them what they can and can't do.
God, I'm having Ultimate Warrior comic book flashbacks with all the ellipsis.
And no, I don't get it but I guess gay people can be just as dumb as straight people because they want to be part of a religion that hates them. Fucking people be crazy!
First, let me propose you something. You get two couples. One will bypass the church, and go to the justice of the peace. Second will go to the church, but bypass the justice. Which one do you think will be recognized by law? Make no mistake, marriage is now a civil status. A legal institution.
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@Jebus Las Vegas
"Unfortunately, your pic won't sway a fundie. Most of them will say Unitarians are not "Real Christians". Probably because of the Unitarians' Christlike everyone is welcome policy."
In that case...:
[img]http://s18.postimg.org/joxwdwdhx/oregon_church_sign.jpg[/img]
...True Christians forfeit in perpetuity the right to even think of saying that the US is a mainly 'Christian Country' then.
Enjoy your paradox, fundies. I also refer Christainotaku to Kate & everyone on Ruptured Retards here:
http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=95306&Page=3#1560654
One of your True Christstain ilk admits it herself no less. Enjoy your paradox II, fundies.
“But Gay Marriage is not a right”
“Marriage itself is a religious ceremony...”
“I doubt gay people could be religious anyway...”
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