*a church apologizes to Charles Darwin personally*
I would leave that church ASAP!!!
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One realises a church might have a little difficulty with the concept, but you can't apologise, reason being he's dead and can't hear you.
It is strange that one of the most fundamental reasons people cling to religions is a denial of the finality of death and a desperate hope that failures and mistakes in this life can be somehow balanced or undone in a following one, but the gods, judgement days and eternal tortures they usually invent to stave off the horror and implications of eventual nonexistence always seem to end up, if anything, even more terrible than mere nonexistence would be.
Darwin is dead; he no longer exists, and never will again. It's too late, and will forever remain too late, to make good on the way you treated him. Stop telling yourself stories of gods and afterlives in the hope there's some way out of the guilt of your mistakes, for there is none; the best you can hope to do is to improve yourselves so you don't make such a mistake again. The way to eliminate guilt is to use the wisdom you gained from your error to improve yourself, to become a different and better person. You can't take guilt from yourself and give it to someone else (this is the most fundamental flaw in the whole basis of Christianity), but you can become someone else, and feel no guilt for the actions of another person, even if you once were that person.
To their credit, a hadful of sects of Christianity actually come close to figuring this out, but they just can't make that last step and realise that Jesus is actually superfluous to the whole procedure.
Luckily the Church of England aren't fundamentalist nutjobs, so I doubt they're having any problems with people leaving them over this.
Actually it's likely that they did this specifically to separate themselves from the Creationists (most of whom we've imported from the US evangelical movement... can we send them back, please).
Maybe we should do what we used to in this country, and ship the undesirables off to Australia, send the fundies off the other side of the world, if they are in such a hurry to leave.
Actually, I think it's a pretty weird apology, too. I mean...a bit late, isn't it? I don't think Darwin can hear you now.
Brain_in_A_Jar:"you can't apologise, reason being he's dead and can't hear you."
Charles Darwin is dead. He is no longer here. But in this book *holds up Origin of Species* and in this scientific theory *holds up note card with explanation of ToE on it* he continues to live on! Digging a hole to pierce the Fundies' skulls!</Gurren Laggan>
Also, i don't think they're really trying to apologize to him personally, (or maybe they are, seeing as how they believe his consciousness is still alive in another dimension somewhere) more like they're saying publicly "we fucked up, and we acknowledge that. sry...."
"most of whom we've imported from the US evangelical movement... can we send them back, please"
No thank you. We have too many as it is.
Well, people have been leaving the Church of England in droves for years. But not at all because of thier (on-going) accetance of evolution as the best explanation for observed events.
One of the main causes of the split is actually female Ministers - with the conservatives stirring up opposition to this idea, and female priests (married ones at that!) still being hired all the time.
The C of E has, like the RCC never been seriously like flatheaded fundie frootloops and raged opposition to science. This is simply a formalisation of the long ago acceptance by the Church that evolution is a fact. Darwin was, after all, being educated to become a C of E Minister in his youth and as buried at Westminster Abbey - one of the Holy of Holies of that very same Church.
Norm
fromdownunder wrote:
"The C of E has, like the RCC never been seriously like flatheaded fundie frootloops and raged opposition to science." "Never" is a pretty big word there.
The RCC was definitely opposed to Heliocentrism in the 16th century, and their opposition was based on Scripture.
I'm sure they'd be happy to see you go considering that idiots like you would give churches with a modicum of collective sanity a bad name.
And while I don't see the point of apologizing to him "personally" after he's dead, at least they are admitting they were wrong. Give 'em some credit for that anyway.
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