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("A Brazilian Christian has been fined 2,000 reales (834 USD), and his book confiscated for publishing his belief that God condemns and punishes homosexual acts.")

The confiscated his book because of what it says about homosexuals, well how long till they confiscate the Bible.

Not long.

Oh and I am not stockpiling weapons and food, stocklpile bibles instead.

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old comment by Siberia

@ 879427: I didn't hear any such thing; I doubt it is real.

My country does have a protection on free speech and freedom of religion, but also against discrimination of gender, sexual orientation, religion, race, etc.

Rather than fined, I'd guess the person was sued. As someone else, a country with ginormous Christ statues everywhere isn't about to ban Bibles anytime in the near future.

... and as I thought, yes, it was a judicial order, which means someone complained first, and thus, is perfectly acceptable under our constitution as it was considered discrimination:

"Although Franca's attorney reportedly argued at trial that his client had the right to freely express his opinions and religious beliefs, the judge responded that such rights were outweighed by the "principles outlined in the Federal Constitution, which would be the equality and dignity of the human person" and "discrimination is not tolerated", according to a paraphrase by TV Morena."

old comment by ausador

But...why are you stockpiling anything? I thought you Fundies believed in the pre-tribulation rapture in which case you will not be around for any of the nasty stuff.

Ohh...thats right, it is because you don't actually believe the few rather thin scriptures that have been stretched out of all recognition to create your rapture fantasy, correct?

Face it, just like you have doubts about a "loving god", you fear the pre-tribulation "rapture" is a make believe fantasy also. You instinctively know the jealous, spiteful, needy and revengeful god you know from your bible is not going to let you off the hook that easy, don't you?

Thats right, you'll be here with the rest of us until only a quarter of the worlds population is left alive. Your loving god is going to subject you to the same horrible fate us the rest of us.

But never forget he is doing it because he knows you are a faithful servant and he loves you.

Or, maybe your angry and all too human god doesn't exist so there is no reason to fear, to stockpile, or to worry.

If you want to live in fear of something that you don't really believe in then go right ahead...but there is the option of disbelief. It is quite freeing, you might like it.

old comment by Siberia

@ BurningStake: yes, I am. :) You're welcome.

The book's name was A Maldição de Deus Sobre o Homosexual: o homosexual precisa conhecer a maldição divina que está sobre ele (The Damnation of God over the Homosexual: the homosexual needs to know the divine damnation that is upon him). All the news I read are either from religious sites or gay-oriented sites, so I don't trust them all that much. The one reference I found from a neutral site reports the president of the Association of Travestites and Transsexuals of Mato Grosso do Sul (where the book was reputedly banned) condemning the book for inciting hatred and religious fanaticism.

According to those news, the book apparently incites discrimination against homosexuals by saying they come from deformed families, that they are demonic and depraved and that they incite unsuspecting adolescents and adults to practice sodomy, "malicious and treacherously". Also, it apparently mentions the death penalty as well. No site I've read elaborates on that tidbit.

The death penalty is banned in the Brazilian Constitution of 1988.

The judge declared that the book violates the right for the dignity of the human person, which is one of the foundations of our Constitution, as well as equality and that the author extrapolated his right for freedom of expression when he attributed pejorative and personal opinions to the homosexuals. Also, he banned it under the justification that it might incite violence against homosexuals (it's apparently that virulent).

The banning of the book and the paying of R$2k were decided in separate collective lawsuits (I think... I suck at English legal terms) against the author. That is a right predicted in our constitution, the right to answer if one's dignity is damaged by another's freedom of speech.

Another site says homosexuals burned the book in front of the church the author attends, and staged a protest with banners displaying "dignity" and "discrimination is a crime" in front of said church, as well as placing 20 crosses symbolizing the 20 homosexuals killed between 2006 and 2007 in Mato Grosso's capital.

A site mentions that seven travestites were murdered in the vicinity of where the book was published that year (2007).

IMHO, the judge acted correctly when the Constitution is considered. It is very clear that discrimination is not OK.

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