On a quote of fschmidt wanting to disenfranchise the poor
The fact that people such as these are promoting censitary suffrage is one of the main reasons I hate liberals.
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@Pharaoh Basthrotep
You did not understand me at all. Check this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Belgium) .
And yes, they upheld censitary suffrage. It took until 1893 to replace censitary suffrage by universal multiple suffrage and 1919 to replace that with univeral singular suffrage. In Belgium, it were the socialists who fought for equal rights, not the liberals.
Although if he's as bad as you claim he's probably a rexist.
Although I tend not to see Wiki as the best source, and while I do not call myself liberal or progressive, I do not see where the party there is that bad. I may not agree with the politics but they don't seem all that bad to me
@#2123423
I disliked them because they upheld free market principles at a time when most Belgians were laboring poor under a yoke little better than slavery itself (and with that I mean 15 hour labor days, child labor being common and forcing workers to buy everything in the store of the boss). There were early socialist movements at the time advocating for change, but they remained under the radar of most people for a very long time. I recommend you to check out the book "Pieter Daens", about a man who was in many ways the very first Christian democrat, to check out how bad the average worker had it in Belgium of the time. While the Liberals may be more humane than the Catholics, at the end of the day they were still silent about all the misery the working poor had to go through and upheld censitary suffrage. I hate them for doing it.
If you want though, here is a link to the movie "Daens". It's not as good as the book, but I think it's serviceable: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfADWpnLEy4
Then I can agree with you, my apologies. Although I admit to being more for free markets, I feel that workers need to have a chance and not be stifled and it sounds like that is what the liberals did. Though to be fair American politics and European are rather different so our liberals are ideologically more for fair markets and helping the poor
I hate liberals
Liberal Democrats in Japan: Conservatives .
Liberal Democrats in Russia: Hardline Nationalists .
Liberal Democrats in Australia: They = Teabaggers/Trumptards in America.
To borrow from Pharaoh Bastethotep - also Inigo Montoya - 'Liberal'. You keep using that word.
We do not think it means what you think it means.
Also, the Liberal Democrats here in Britain. Neither right (Conservative), nor left (Labour), but 'Middle-of-the-Road'.
I trust that clears things up. [/Doug Piranha-levels of sarcasm]
@hydrolythe
So... Is it that I am now a despised man on this site?
No.
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