Uh, Rashid; What you call "Real Islam" is a brutal bastardization called Wahhabism.
Then again, you're probably one of Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab's fanboys. Disgusting!
Your filthy anti-Islam is ruining the rest of good Islam.
Majid Nawaz, Malala Yousafzai, Rep. Keith Ellison, Mohammed Ali and ever British Goth-icon Peter Murphy are better Muslims than you'll EVER be!
To anyone listening: Wahhabiism is the source of all this IslamoFrum Extremism, today. Yes; there have been brutal, imperialistic conquerors in the past that predate Wahhabiism, however EVERYBODY in past centuries was into violently conquering each other. Kings, Emperors & Sultans were stupid that way.
Wahhabiism was started and funded by Saudi Arabia. It's still funded. It's basically a world-domination scheme by the Saudi Royal family. They have all this money from oil to send out missionaries & open madrasas to spread this poison. They see the Hajj as a money-making venture and nothing more....otherwise they'd have the Kaaba destroyed (since they hate shrines and tombs to Muslim/Biblical figures).
Also, for those who state that Islam has Sharia and that it's meant for a theocratic government, listen up....The Hebrew "Law of Moses" was too! The point is is that Abrahamics understand that certain things are best left in the distant past and prefer to re-adapt their moral code to a private thing than a govt. thing.
Judaism, Christianity & Islam are all variations of the same darn thing and if we can separate sane Christians & Jews from frummy Christians & Jews....WHY NOT THE SAME WITH MUSLIMS?
Look, I know there are some ideas in the Quran that are pretty darn "old-fashioned" & prudish. Yes, I'm aware of scriptures that are rather stupid. I'm also aware that most of the angrier passages and Mohammed's warlording were due to them being attacked by others. Do I excuse it all? No....But apparently there were groups violently attacking them back when they were peaceful and simply preaching. Mohammed just snapped and got sick of it; And the mayhem started.
I think when Mohammed, in the Medina-era verses, was saying nastiness about Christians & Jews, he was talking about the Christians & Jews around him and his people at the time (who were attacking them) and not Christians & Jews in general. It's like how the Nazarene Testament speaks of "the evil Jews who had Jesus crucified" when they really meant "the evil Jewish leaders and those who agreed with them back then who had Jesus crucified".
Here's some articles....
http://islam.about.com/od/commonmisconceptions/tp/myths.htm
http://www.cracked.com/article_18911_5-ridiculous-things-you-probably-believe-about-islam.html
http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/10650/viewall/top-ten-myths-about-islam/
And some quotes from the VERY SECULAR Founding Fathers....
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Now, I'm aware that some doctrines are overly old-fashioned, restrict sexual-expression, enforce gender roles and obsess over modesty....but it's the same with the other two Abrahamic faiths. Heck; Organized Religions tend to have these things. The point is is that Islam isn't the problem....FANATICISM IS!
The beauty of a government with a Religion/State separation is that everyone can follow any faith and be as permissive or strict as they want to be. Some people are actually happier with some restrictions and more conservative-living. Others are happier "letting it all hang out". As long as it's not imposed on others and kept personal and not taken to extremes, it's fine. To each their own.
So, really, fellow FSTDTers; Those of you who lump normal Muslims with the crazies should be ashamed of yourselves! I can understand the trolls and dorks like Jerky & Nutso4Life but YOU GUYS?!