The ‘hate crimes’ gays complain about are infrequent and seldom involve more than name-calling or snide remarks. The FBI reported 431 hate crimes against homosexuals for the U.S. in all of 1991. Only one was "confirmed" for Washington, D.C. – yet D.C. gay activists claimed 397 incidents! When pressed, they admitted that at least 366 of these "crimes" consisted of "verbal harassment." (23)
In line with traditional psychiatric opinion, violence goes hand-in-hand with the ‘gay’ lifestyle. Almost all the exposure by homosexuals to violence and disease is encountered in the gay subculture. Most of the murderers in the lifespan study whose sexual orientation could be determined were also homosexual. While violence toward homosexuals is deplorable, most violence involving gays is self-induced (and the gay subculture may export more violence than it absorbs from without).
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Hell, don't say Dave Stewart has a friend now? And a graduate of Patriot U., by the look of it, too.
Dear Quack Cameron.. I know of what study you speak of and it's pure bullshit, and was debunked.
Now take your homophobic ass and get it the fuck out of the forums until you read real studies.
And I would bet your whiny ass would be the first one in line at the police station if someone called you foul names, spat on you and threatened you. Now, read this part, cuz it's important.... if all the above mentioned actions are done while spewing epithets like 'fag, faggot, freak, fruit' are deemed hate crimes.
Here ends your formal education.
Jesus H. Christ, in what alternate dimension is this guy living that blood-thirsty, disease-ridden gay monsters roam the streets of America? This certainly doesn't describe me, my partner, or any of our gay friends? Or even gay strangers for that matter. I haven't noticed one murderous patient zero developing a sudden taste for sunday brunch and early evening "tea" at the cocktail lounge among anyone I know.
The hate crimes’ gays complain about are infrequent and seldom involve more than name-calling or snide remarks. The FBI reported 431 hate crimes against homosexuals for the U.S. in all of 1991. Only one was "confirmed" for Washington, D.C. yet D.C. gay activists claimed 397 incidents! When pressed, they admitted that at least 366 of these "crimes" consisted of "verbal harassment." (23)
And yet if you were confronted ONCE with this "mere" verbal harassment, you'd be running to the phone, screaming persecution, hate crimes, religious intolerance and a multitude of other woes that have befallen you.
Dirty Fun
performer unknown
Muggers in the alley, rapists in the park
Faggot bashers on the street cruisin after dark
They're out for more than money, its power and romance
'Cause every time they break a head Lord how they fill their pants
Cause its fun, everybody knows its fun
Forget the psycho babble this is why these things get done
The skinhead nazis do it to be the master race
The black and brown gang bangers like gettin in your face
The cops and spooks and yuppies like makin poor folks crawl
The lawyers and the politicians screw the most of all
Cause its fun, everybody knows its fun
Forget the psycho babble this is why these things get done
Its jucier than movies, its easier than sex
Its cheaper fun than gambling and you can stack the decks
No one wants to say it, but we all know its there
Anyone thats legal aint nothin to compare
Cause its dirty fun, everybody knows its fun
Forget the psycho babble this is why these things get done
Forget the psycho babble this is why these things get done
If someone 'verbally harassed' this person for being a Christian, he would be up in arms. Hate in the name of a hateful wicked God is always so convenient, hypocrite. I wonder what this person's claimed doctorate is in.
Yet according to the FBI statistics there were 1,195 hate crimes against Gay's in 2006. It's also a known fact that the victims often do not report the crime because of fear of persecution from the authorities.
So yes, I could see activists numbers being higher, just because it may be reported to them alone.
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So let's have a look at you...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Cameron
Well you do have a real PhD, that's one mark on your side.
Oops but we lost our license to practice because of "ethics" in 83
But it's okay for teenagers to do anything but intercourse according to you
But you have the money to run your own Institute and to publish your own papers, so I guess that makes you right doesn't it.
And you do know the common knowledge about extreme homophobia don't you? Just come out of the closet, it's cold and dark in there.
"violence goes hand-in-hand with the gay’ lifestyle."
Yea, these people are always picking fights and starting barroom brawls.
Idiot.
most violence involving gays is self-induced
So what? The same would be true of any relatively self-contained group. I imagine most violence involving Pennsylvanians, high school students or married couples is "self-induced", too.
ah yes: when my boyf and I were set on by a gang that punched and kicked us (admitttedly some time ago) it was our fault for flaunting our homosexuality.
Xianity in a nutshell - blame the victim for not conforming
"Almost all the exposure by homosexuals to violence and disease is encountered in the gay subculture."
"and the gay subculture may export more violence than it absorbs from without"
You mean most of the violence and hate towards gays is from other gays, like the obviously closeted, hate-exporting fundies? You may be onto something there.
"self-induced" - you're retarded. You probably think most rapes happen because "she was looking for it".
So, as straight people, we have some sort of right to say that gay people aren't offended by verbal harassment?
it's not like a serious crime, but it does happen.
And... Also, I'm not entirely sure what your point is anyway.... You hate gays because they said they were verbally harassed?
Honestly, don't waste your time reading this crap. This lunatic has been so utterly discredited, in so many seperate ways, for so long by real scientists that his wiki entry struggles to find ones who can even be bothered to write critiques of him, and says so!
The scary thing is, of course, that fundies are incapable of using google, let alone wiki. They probably don't even use conservapedia, as it is polysyllabic...
And for the record, "Dr." Cameron, "I'll fucking kill you, you fucking faggot" is verbal harassment. Guess what. If someone hissed that at me, I'd be fucking afraid. Guess what else. UTTERING THREATS IS AGAINST THE LAW. No matter how petty you think it might be.
"Most of the murderers in the lifespan study whose sexual orientation could be determined were also homosexual."
[Citation needed]
Most of the murderers in the lifespan study whose sexual orientation could be determined were also homosexual.
Read: Most of the murderers in the lifespan study who were found to be gay were also homosexual.
Strange. I know many gay men, and not one has ever accosted me, nor have I assaulted any of them. Strangely enough, we treat one another with respect. And the subject of sex never comes up. We talk about weird things like history and politics and art and literature and science. Something must be wrong with all of us.
What's the soup?
Cream of bullshit.
In line with traditional psychiatric opinion,
err... weren't you kicked out of the APA for refusal to cooperate under an ethics investigation,and disassociated from Canadian Psychological Association for repetitive misrepresentation of research?
Yhea not the kinda guy who has a psychiatric (or religious) opinion I would value.
just an little personal aside. My gay father was murdered by a couple of straight guys over drugs. My opinion, after many conversations with Granny and aunts and uncles, is Pop turned to drugs to mask the pain and rejection. Being gay in a pentecostal household being a kind of crazy making upbringing.
Confused?
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