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Gay sex is a mutual abuse. Consent means absolutely nothing except in a court of law, it doesn't change the fact gay is a mental disorder.

"you're actually talking about sodomy, or if you're talking about homosexuality. They are entirely different, and you know this."

You're ignorance is showing again, 99.9% of gay men engage in it repeatedly - or are you going to deny this?

"You can't stop people from having sexual relations"

I don't have to accept it, you can't stop people from murdering each other and I don't have to accept that either. Gay male promiscuity leaves heteros in the dust - because of their sexual addiction, it's consumes them just like drugs consume the drug addict.

"The Ellen stereotype is just downright offensive"

Ellen is offensive (but that's another topic) does she or does she not have butch hair and dress like a man? I have seen countless gay couples that have a female role and a male role, a vast majority of them in fact.

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old comment by Tempus

Wrote this elsewhere, about why fundies can't comprehend "consent":

See, [Fundies like Oboehner here] don't actually see sex as something taking place between equals. In their worldview, it literally can't. See, the ONLY proper context for sex is between a man and his wife in the marriage bed, and in fundamentalist religion, women and men aren't even remotely equal. The wife is essentially the property of the father until he chooses to give her away, at which point she becomes the property of her husband. She doesn't have the power to withhold consent--notice the fire from the far right any attempt to pass or enforce spousal-rape laws inevitably draws. Women aren't afforded much more status than children, who are ALSO seen as the property of their parents--their father first, then their mother. The only equal adults who can exist would be two men, or two women--and both are kinds of relationships which are decreed strictly forbidden. Sex is something done to you, or that you do to someone, and not something both partners participate in equally.

I honestly think that a lot of the right's behavior stems from this glitch--regardless of what they may say, they encounter what amounts to a "divide by cucumber" error when they try to wrap their minds around the concept of "mutual adult consent."

old comment by bazer63

Refuting bullshit one step at a time:

"Gay sex is a mutual abuse. Consent means absolutely nothing except in a court of law, it doesn't change the fact gay is a mental disorder."

The physiatrist people disagree, and they know about this shit than you do. And mutual abuse is an oxymoron. Abuse requires a power imbalance.

"You're ignorance is showing again, 99.9% of gay men engage in it repeatedly - or are you going to deny this? "

Yes because it's bullshit.

"I don't have to accept it, you can't stop people from murdering each other and I don't have to accept that either. Gay male promiscuity leaves heteros in the dust - because of their sexual addiction, it's consumes them just like drugs consume the drug addict."

How does it leave hetros in the dust. And sexual addiction =/= gay.

"Ellen is offensive (but that's another topic) does she or does she not have butch hair and dress like a man? I have seen countless gay couples that have a female role and a male role, a vast majority of them in fact."

I sort of like how straight people have to force heteronormative gender roles on gay couples when a) they're not wanted or needed" I'm friends with a straight couple who's relationship feels more like a lesbian relationship because the guy is super femme. You know why, LOTS OFPEOPLE DO NOT WANT OR NEED HETRONORMATIVE GENDER ROLES IN THEY'RE RELATIONSHIP EVEN IF THE RELATIONSHIP IS BOY/GIRL.

old comment by Skidie

Go fuck a honey badger, disgusting weakling. I know your kind all too well, without will of their own nor any character you simply assume that since YOU, YOU, YOU can`t handle psychoactive substances or certain ways of intercourse then of course nobody can and thus you give yourself the undeserved privledge of controling others. Your kind would eliminate all challenge from our existence, you would have us all merely subsist instead of living.

Don`t figure stuff for yourself, here`s a bible!

Aquiring a life partner might not be easy for a socialy stunted person devoid of courage so lets chain all our females up and sell them as property, this way all you gonna need is money, money you idealy would inherit from your parents without ever working a day in your life.

Can`t handle your booze, your weed, your blow and make a scared fool of yourself every time you`re at a party? Let`s just forbid everything, after all this big black book basicaly says you`re a degenerate slave anyway.

Sorry for the rant guys, it`s just this idea that we`re incapable of controling and moderating ourselves hence need to have everything said and enforced for us is a pet peeve of mine.

old comment by Swede

Mutual abuse would be two people beating each other up. Two people enjoying sex together is not abuse. To decent people, consent is everything, it's the key.

Homosexuality was removed from the list of mental disorders decades ago, simply because it doesn't fit any criteria.

Sodomy can have many definitions. Mostly it's anal sex, but sometimes it's all forms of sex that is not PIV. In any case, it's an intercourse method, and it can be used both by straight people and gay people. As there are many more straight people, most people performing sodomy (as in anal) are straight. Have you met and interviewed 99,9 percent of all gay men? No? Well, then I'm definitely going to deny that.

Oh, and you shouldn't call someone on their ignorance, while writing "you're" instead of "your".

You DO have to accept that other people live their lives their way. Murder is an infringement of the victim's human rights. A homosexual relationship doesn't infringe on the human rights of the people involved.

Gay male promiscuity? What about gay female promiscuity? Again, have you met and interviewed all these gay males you seem to know so well?

All the people I know of with a sex addiction are straight males. Are you a straight male, NoBoner?

I find Ellen funny and intelligent.
Butch hair? Isn't that hair-style called pixie cut? Sported by such butch people as Anne Hathaway, Audrey Tautou and Audrey Hepburn...
What is "dress like a man" nowadays? Most women I know usually wear pants and t-shirts.

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I haven't seen a single gay couple who has male AND female roles. The gay men I know have male roles and the gay women I know have female roles. If they wanted a male and a female role, they would be involved with a person of the other sex.
What is a female role btw? And what is a male role? I'd say most people have sides that are usually seen as male and sides that are usually seen as females.

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