None of my daughters or their husbands asked the state of Tennessee for permission to marry. They did not yoke themselves to government. It was a personal, private covenant, binding them together forever—until death. So when the sodomites have come to share in the state marriage licenses, which will eventually be the law, James and Shoshanna will not be in league with those perverts. And, while I am on the subject, there will come a time when faithful Christians will either revoke their state marriage licenses and establish an exclusively one man-one woman covenant of marriage, or, they will forfeit the sanctity of their covenant by being unequally yoked together with perverts.
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First, get off the meds before naming kids.
Second, Even if they didn't legally marry, all that means is its null until other clauses such as common-law-marriage kick in for their having lived together.
Marriage only became an interest to religions once they realised that by controlling that, they controlled whom could ally with whom, making damn sure to get their word in before "blessing" and allowing it.
Long ago, it was purely a contract between families/buisnesses/kingdoms. The kids had their own lovers seperate from that 'cept in the few cases where they actually loved eachother.
"...they will forfeit the sanctity of their covenant by being unequally yoked together with perverts."
Nobody's asking you to marry gays or lesbians! They just want to marry each other! Is this why you fundies are so against gay marriage???
[/sarcasm, y'all.]
Shoshanna is just Hebrew for Suzanne -- I actually like it. (Though I've heard a common nickname is Shoshkele -- I don't like that one so much.)
That said, his daughters are going to have an awful lot of fun if their husbands die or if they seek a divorce. After all, isn't it the trailer trash hicks who gave common law marriage a bad name to begin with?
Mike, the number of inconsistencies in your post is incredible. One, you say that none of your daughters or husbands.........and later one you mention one James and Shoshanna. Wow!, are your daughters travesties now or are your sons actually getting a license?. Now, they don't yoke to the government, but they expect to get the same priviledge, protection and benefits from it in case of trouble. Another inconsistency you don't bother to explain. Third, just because two people can marry without adjusting to your norms, you're in league with those perverts. I can't get how it interferes with your right to get married or what means yoked by now but tell me something, did you consider that when Catholics, Muslims or Buddhist were able to marry SINCE EVER?
So, neither your daughters nor their husbands, why?, because now their husbands are marrying separately and practicing Bible sanction polygamy?
go for god-bothering, not state-sanctioned marriage.
give up the tax and benefits such "legal" marriage brings.
QED
Look at the page... WTF is "the" wedding ?! But, I don't think its real, all the pictures are plainly ripped off image sites.
all 1 of them? I doubt it. the site is real. and I think it's "the" wedding because it's his last daughter.
RE: #369907 - yeah, the site is weird beyond belief.
There is a page about "Abusive Husbands" which is mind boggling crazy (Read more) . It has these great lines:
"The little girl is told by the father that the mother is hitting her when she spanks her. It is a horrible situation. The father does not provide them with any food, a vehicle, payment for doctor visits, and so on." (so spanking is not hitting?
"The Scripture makes it very clear how God feels about divorce, He hates it. It is an Old Testament passage, but God has not changed his mind. He still hates divorce. It is not His will, it wasn't so from the beginning, and it is not so today. There have been occasions, both in Scripture and in our ministry, where a man was so vile that God has killed him. A woman can come to God asking Him to deliver her from a man if he will not repent, but a woman should be sure she has obeyed God in her relationship to her husband, before she asks such a thing."
Wow.
"None of my daughters or their husbands asked the state of Tennessee for permission to marry."
Then why should homosexuals ask the state of Tennessee for permission to marry? You'd better rething the mishmashh of contradiction you just posted.
#369907 No, all the pictures on the site, not the page. And then there's this: "After kissing
and kissing
and
you get the idea, the two of them rushed back down the aisle to their waiting steed. They mounted together. This time she was folded in his arms and they rode out before us against the now crimson sky." which any father talking about his own daughter's wedding would not use that language, or so I would hope at least.
Not saying it isn't fundy, just that it is a lie, maybe he doesn't have children, maybe he has a bunch of kids who went back to reality so he's constructed an elaborate fantasy world where they stay neatly under his thumb.
Either way, why be so anonymously defensive about it?
I didn't intend for you to read it as defensive. my apologies. I do think most of the stuff on that site is real though, and while I think some of the pictures are probably random images, some are not.
"That is now the last of my girls, all well married. What a blessing! What a joy! If life were any sweeter, I would be a jar of jelly."
Um, Michael... if that is your name, are you sure, come to think of it, that your parents just didn't know how to spell Michelle?
Yikes. This whole site is terrifying. Please tell me Michael/elle that you spent all your money on a computer rather than a car and so cannot travel closer to where I reside...
Without a state-issued marriage certificate, Mike's daughters may find themselves in a mess at some point down the road. Establishing a "common law" marriage isn't easy and it's getting harder. Most states, including Tennessee, don't recognize them at all. If his daughters are traditional fundie stay-at-home wives, they may find themselves with no rights if they break up or the husband dies, including the right to any 401(k) or IRA money the husband may have accumulated, or the right to anything that was exclusively in his name, even their house. At retirement, they may find themselves ineligible for Social Security or widow's pensions. If they have big medical bills and the insurance company finds out they're not legally married, they may attempt to deny medical insurance coverage. In New Jersey, a woman using her husband's name can't even renew her driver's license without a valid marriage certificate.
Ironically, they're up the same creek that gays are trying to get out of by legalizing gay marriage.
@Whydontyou.org.uk:
"There have been occasions, both in Scripture and in our ministry, where a man was so vile that God has killed him. A woman can come to God asking Him to deliver her from a man if he will not repent,....."
don't they say that god helps those who help themselves. Get the axe out honey
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