sorry but...Homosexuality is NOT GENETIC.
it has NOT been "scientifically prooved.
that is false.
also...the bible has NEVER been proven wrong...
God created us perfectly is what the bible said.
and he also destroyed soddom and gomorrah for gays mainly...
so God would destroy an entire city for sumthing that was genetic and NOT their fualt?
that is HIGHLY UNLIKELY...in fact.
that would be a very unust and unrighteous thing for GOD to do.
so that is ruled out completely.
so i am sorry to say that
nobody is "born homosexual"
the way the human body is created...makes it not possible to actually be BORN homosexual.
so...now we conclude all FALSE ALLIGATIONS of ppl being born into "HOMOSEXUALITY"
thank you.
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so God would destroy an entire city for sumthing that was genetic and NOT their fualt?
that is HIGHLY UNLIKELY...in fact.
that would be a very unust and unrighteous thing for GOD to do.
so that is ruled out completely.
Your OT says that he ordered the killing of whole nations right down to the last child , so yeah, he'd do it, and yeah, that makes him unrighteous.
So I guess God disappears in another poof of logic [/Douglas Adams]?
that would be a very unust and unrighteous thing for GOD to do.
so that is ruled out completely. I agree that something is ruled out completely -- the idea that a just God is revealed in the Bible. But, then, the entirety of the Good News is unjust.
PROBLEM: We are held to a standard we can not ever meet; this limitation having been built into us by God. It's only made worse result of a crime that was, of course, committed by another who was -- get this -- ignorant of right and wrong ! That would be us cursed by God's injustice.
SOLUTION: Kill the only innocent around. This murder will release us from the burden we carry of our distant ancestor's doing only what one would expect. We are thus saved from God's injustice by another of God's injustices. Be thankful for what little you can get during His good moods and pretend to smile when He looks your way.
"God would destroy an entire city for sumthing that was genetic and NOT their fualt?"
I beg to differ. The OT is FULL of god punishing people for things that aren't their fault. Hell (pun intended), if god is all powerful and all knowing, he knew exactly what choices every human being was going to make before when even created Adam and Eve, but he decided to create them that way anyway, so every bad choice anyone had ever made is actually god's fault. According to christian beliefs about the nature of god and creation, god punishes people for his own mistakes. Except that god, being god, cannot make mistakes. So I guess god make people the way he did on purpose, so that he COULD punish them. Man, god's a dick.
"sorry but...Homosexuality is NOT GENETIC."
I read some studies in the 1990s, looking at twins raised apart, showed that there is a genetic component to homosexuality.
"it has NOT been "scientifically prooved."
Virtualy all scientist involved with this subject agree that homosexuality is largely genetic and not a choice or a disease.
"that is false."
What is false?
"also...the bible has NEVER been proven wrong..."
That is false. The Bible has hundreds of errors that have been shown to be false over and over and over. Wake up and smell the bullshit, Trey.
"God created us perfectly is what the bible said."
There you go, two falsehoods right there.
"and he also destroyed soddom and gomorrah for gays mainly..."
That is false. Why would "gays" want Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed?
"so God would destroy an entire city for sumthing that was genetic and NOT their fualt?"
According to the Bible, your "God" is such an asshole that we would destroy almost anything and anybody for almost any perceived offense."
"that is HIGHLY UNLIKELY...in fact."
You haven't actually read much of the Bible, have you?
"that would be a very unust and unrighteous thing for GOD to do."
I agree, but according to the Bible, that's just the type of unjust and unrighteous thing your "God" is wont to do.
"so that is ruled out completely."
No. Pay attention, Trey.
"so i am sorry to say that
nobody is 'born homosexual'
the way the human body is created...makes it not possible to actually be BORN homosexual."
Your whole agrument hinges on the premise that "God" created humans. You have not come close to proving that "God" even exists much less that he created anything.
"so...now we conclude all FALSE ALLIGATIONS of ppl being born into "HOMOSEXUALITY"
"FALSE ALLIGATIONS?" Are those something like plastic crocodiles?
<<< sorry but...Homosexuality is NOT GENETIC. >>>
Difficult to tell. There is probably a significant genetic component, but other factors probably come into play as well.
<<< also...the bible has NEVER been proven wrong... >>>
It's logically inconsistent and therefore CANNOT be correct in all cases.
<<< that would be a very unust and unrighteous thing for GOD to do. >>>
Yes, yes it would.
<<< so that is ruled out completely. >>>
Given the number of other atrocities your God commits in the OT, this one fits right in.
<<< the way the human body is created...makes it not possible to actually be BORN homosexual. >>>
Any evidence, or are you talking out of your ass again?
also...the bible has NEVER been proven wrong...
Trey, if you took the time to actually read the Bible you would realize how ridiculous this assertion is. The Bible is rife with errors and outright lies, not to mention abominable conduct on the part of God, his messengers, and followers.
If your only exposure to the Bible is what your minister spoon-feeds you, then you won't ever have a clue.
Reading the Bible is probably the primary reason for people losing their faith. Once they actually look at all that bullshit, the rest falls apart pretty quickly.
Actually I think the #1 reason people lose their faith is because of heartless, hateful, sickening people who claim to be believers in Christ. I don't think the bible has that much to do with it. Most people hate christianity because of HIS followers.
Being gay is, probably among others, partly genetic and partially caused in the womb by external factors. God made us so that we could be gay and god is an asshole.
Just the god is an asshole takes down your whole argument. You lose.
Actually, there is dispute over "to what extent" genetics plays a role in sexuality; nonetheless, it is no dispute that sexuality is NOT a choice; I do not choose to be straight any more than Elton chooses to be gay.
Assuming all that story is true, I think that the fact that god himself destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah is actually proof that being gay is not a bad thing in the eyes of him nowadays . Maybe being gay 3000 years ago was bad for him, but the fact that he hasn't destroyed cities like San Francisco, for example, is proof enough that he has changed his mind about the subject.
Anyone thinks any fundie would be convinced by this?
so God would destroy an entire city for sumthing that was genetic and NOT their fualt?
that is HIGHLY UNLIKELY...in fact.
that would be a very unust and unrighteous thing for GOD to do.
It IS unjust and unrighteous, and it IS what your god does. Your god says that even though someone doesn't have the oppurtunity in their lifetime to be exposed to 'the bible' they are still doomed because they never accepted...blahblahblah..
UNJUST INDEED.
Let's just start by saying there are about 1000 kinds of homo, ok? Leather boys are not sissy old librarians or twinks. Some of them might be born gay, while some wander down Queer Street in a fit of boredom. What I want to know is why they attract fundies so much? And that's not a false alligator, buddy.
Hey, IF I capitalize RANDOM words too, MAYBE somebody will listen TO my DISJOINTED ramblings, rather than hundreds OF PAGES of facts?
er, putting aside the rest of your comments for a minute, have you actually read the bible at all? they were destroyed primarily becasue the people weren't paying their taxes and ignoring the correct ettiquette of entertaining guests. That was why that 1 family was warned, remember? THEY behaved correctly. Homosexuality isn't even MENTIONED. Don't believe me? read your freakin' sacred text!
"also...the bible has NEVER been proven wrong... "
Actually, it has.
"God created us perfectly is what the bible said."
Then gays would be perfect.
"and he also destroyed soddom and gomorrah for gays mainly..."
No, I suggest you actually sit and read the book you try to shove down other people's throats.
"nobody is "born homosexual"
Would you like to provide proof for that claim?
"the way the human body is created...makes it not possible to actually be BORN homosexual."
Your pyshical body has nothing to do with being homo or hetrosexual.
Also, do not spacebar every fucking sentance.
Thats fucking annoying.
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