[Women are earning more in the workplace.]
Sadly, the feminsta women who have abandoned their children (and the husbands who have encouraged it) to being reared by virtual strangers are largely responsible for our society going down the tubes as fast as it has (and no, I am not a man - I am a SAHM and proud of it - and will continue to be one). The women are the ones that caused the welfare/government programs to be set up to the extent that they are now. They are the ones who want someone to "help" take care of them when they decided men were not important to them (thank you old line feminists), so they turned to the government. It is so sad that women have turned to a JOB to find happiness in their lives. If they are Christians, it is doubly sad because they have ignored what God wanted for the family (and yes, I realize women "worked" in the Bible, but not like they do now),
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What should widows do (naturally, welfare is an evil feminist plot, like you mentioned)? Women abandoned by their husbands? Familes that can't survve on one income (all too common in this economy)? Abused women? Families (like mine) in which the woman vastly outqualfies the man in education and job skills. Infertile women? Lesbians (gasp!)?
Unsurprisingly, the fundie one-size-fits-all famiy model is overwhelmingly outdated, short-sighted, and unrealistic.
As for me, I'll continue working toward my degree at a top ten uni, so I'm not hopelessly dependant on someone else to survive.
By the way, those working women also pay the taxes that help fund welfare programs. And the majority of politicians are men, your supremely logical beings, so they could have blocked welfare programs.
Finally, there is no epidemic of women tossing their children to the gutter alongside their bras.
Simon Peter said to them, "Make Mary leave us, for females don't deserve life."
Jesus said, "Look, I will guide her to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every female who makes herself male will enter the kingdom of Heaven."
-Gospel of Thomas 114
Yeah, it's got nothing to do with the insane cost of living these days. I mean, it's not like most parents (not just mothers) would love to spend more time with their children but just don't actually have the time or the energy because of the demands their jobs place on them. Too bad those same jobs are what's needed to make ends meet and quitting them would result in much more harm than good.
Firstly, daycare employees and school teachers are not strangers to the kids. They are very important persons in the kids' lives.
Secondly, if the men are working, they too have abandoned their children.
Thirdly, men are very important to us feminists. Just as we women are important to the men. We are all equally important and valuable, and should have equal opportunities and responsibilities.
"It is so sad that women have turned to a JOB to find happiness in their lives."
It's equally sad that men have turned to a JOB to find happiness in their lives.
Hundred years ago, most people were farmers. The whole family worked on the farm, including the kids.
There were no stay-at-home-moms then. That is a 50's concept. As far as I know, the Bible was not written in the 50's.
Keep telling yourself that. My mom worked and we didn't feel the least bit abandoned. She was as close as the nearest phone if we needed her, and meanwhile we learned responsibility and self-reliance faster than most kids. In fact we actually got annoyed when she took a day off to spend with us, because it messed up our routine.
Go to your nearest college freshman dorm if you want to see the difference between a kid who's mom worked, and one who's mom stayed home and waited on them hand and foot. Even among the girls I remember being shocked to see how many couldn't even wash a dish, let alone make a bed or do laundry.
And as for the earning for thing, well excuse the fuck out of us for having nicer clothes and a nicer house.
Look, if you're happy with being a stay-at-home mom, by all means, continue doing it. Don't tell me what to do with my life, though. Not all of us would be as happy as you are; different people are fulfilled by different life paths. Plus, we're not all as well-off as you are. Some of us need to work in order to make ends meet.
What the fuck are you doing reading and commenting on "news?" You don't need to worry about world events, your man will tell you what you need to know about the world. Why are you turning to your computer to find happiness in your life? Back in the kitchen, you sad excuse for a woman.
Although I personally hate aggressive feminism (the type that basically claims women are superior) there's nothing that annoys me more than to see some stupid bitch who's content to stay at home and be ignorant, being so staggeringly ungrateful for the last hundred years of progress in women's rights.
Emmeline Pankhurst is turning in her grave!
Hey bitch! If we could afford for my wife to stay home and take care of our child, I'd be all for it. But we can't.
If you can afford to stay home & take care of the kids, then that's your right to do so. But don't tell everyone else that they have to do the same. That's what really pisses me off about fundamentalist Christians. It's the "one of us, one of us" attitude that everyone must be carbon copies of themselves, and they get pissed off when people don't fit into the mold.
And I don't think that working women are the ones the welfare programs were set up to help. It's more like the poor single mothers out there who can't afford day care. But you probably think they deserve it for being sluts.
I actually really find it hard to believe that this is a real woman. It reminds me of the time I was arguing with a supposed lesbian online who was saying how gay marriage should not be legal. Yeah, right.
And what's a SAHM? Sad abused house mother?
My wife was a stay at home mother as well. That was her choice and I didn't force it on her. Yes, it meant some financial sacrifices had to be made.
What you fundie morons are advocating however is for all women to stay at home, whether they like it or not.
As to the welfare programs being there to help women who don't want men around, that's pure bullshit. You need a reminder of what it was like for women when their husbands deserted them, with several kids and no financial support.
Feminism has helped you, whether you want to admit it or not. Women like you are traitors to your own sex.
God has fuck all to do with anything.
Oh, this is rich. Misogynists constantly rail at women for supposedly abandoning their children, yet make not a peep of protest against the fathers who work long hours and barely see their children. So, men aren't abandoning their children if they're too invested in their work or if they decide to get up and walk out on them, but women are oh-so-evil for trying to have a career? Give me a flipping break. You never hear people wonder about how men could possibly balance fatherhood and work, because, you know, parenting is solely women's work and men should not be expected to forgo their godly duty of breadwinner and provider to spend even a few hours raising and caring for their precious offspring. If men work long hours away from home, they're selfless and self-sacrificing; if women do the same, they're selfish and bad mothers.
And yet these are often the same people who rant and rave about homosexuals because they believe that a child "needs a mother and a father figure." Right.
I wish that, as a woman I didn't have to work to help support my family, I think it would be better for my child if I could stay home with her and raise her myself. However, thanks to the extortionate prices of basic needs for daily living I HAVE to work so that my child doesn't starve to death. Not all working moms are single. My husband works full time (for far less than he's worth).
Perhaps you'd best be referred to as a "SHAM" rather than a "SAHM".
What I find most arrogant about this comment, is the part about how she will continue to be a stay at home mother.
My question is, what happens when her husband dies in some kind of accident, or leaves her for a less dependent woman who actually can take care of herself and doesn't expect him to carry the full burden of supporting the family alone? Is she going to go on evil welfare to support herself and her children, or is she going to learn a useful skill and toss her children to the side so that she can get a JOB to support those kids she's popped out like god wanted her to?
Women are working and earning more than men and they're on welfare? WTF?
You ate a lot of paint chips as a kid, didn't you?
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So, should Jenny Sanford now get a JOB to take care of her four boys? Or should she have stayed with "Appalachian" Mark Sanford just so he could pay the bills?
I am not a man - I am a SAHM and proud of it - and will continue to be one
Because my husband would never die or dump me for a new girlfriend or anything like that. If your husband dies or leaves or gets thrown in jail, watch how fast you change your tune about government help.
They are the ones who want someone to "help" take care of them
And what are you doing? Are you paying the mortgage, buying food, etc.? And you're not making sense. First you complain about women earning their own living, then turn around and accuse them of sponging off the government. Pick one argument or the other, for crissake!
Are you kidding me? Women in ancient times worked a hell of a lot harder than any woman with a job today, or any stay at home mom. It helped them to die at 35. Think of how hard cooking and cleaning would be without running water and electricity, and how much attention you'd have to pay your kids without Davey and Goliath to entertain them. Have you ever hand-ground grain into flour? Have you ever cooked over an open fire in the middle of your house? Have you ever worked in any fields? Have you ever made your own pottery? Carded, spun and wove your own wool? Sewed with bone needles and a stone knife?
Fuck you you lazy bitch, you're sitting pretty and have no right to compare yourself with ancient women with no 'jobs.'
Welfare and the social safety net started with the Great Depression due to the same right-wing Republican, anti-regulation, "trickle-down" economic policies that have caused our recent economic woes (and that you no doubt vote for every election).
Mothers don't get on welfare because they've decided men aren't "important", but because, usually, the father has shirked his financial responsibilities. If your husband ever gets sick of listening to your holier-than-thou Mean Girl routine, you just might find that out the hard way--and you'll have no job skills to help yourself.
I wonder what s(he) thinks of women who aren't married, don't have kids and (shock!) don't want them.
Denial, I suspect, of their existence.
Because men are morons incapable of raising a child, preparing their food or helping them with any problem. Men like myself could never stay home if the mother was making more to look after the child because all we're good for is tough, manly labour right?
Keep your sexism to yourself. Men can stay at home as well.
"Can't wait to see her reaction when it's shown women outnumber men now when it comes to getting a College Degree"
Bizarre thing, we in engineering still have a crap-ton of trouble getting female into engineering (last ratio count of 4-to-1). Similar troubles in mathematic, physics...
Actually, any field with a large amount of math in it.
So, where ARE those women?
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I don't know what these girls are doing. When I was inhigh school, there were just as many girls in advanced math, physics, and chemistry as boys. Then when they went to college they decided to major in things like psychology and sociology. It makes no sense.
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