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Donald Trump Claims 'Thousands And Thousands' Of Muslim-Americans Celebrated 9/11, Finds Only Two
Donald Trump has not backed down from his roundly discredited claim that “thousands and thousands” of Muslim-Americans in Jersey City celebrated the September 11 attacks as the Twin Towers fell, with his campaign manager even arguing that the media is deliberately suppressing footage of the nonexistent celebrations.

“Mr. Trump has provided them local media outlets that have covered this coverage that they don’t want to go and talk about,” campaign manager Corey Lewandowski said. “He’s provided many opportunities for them to go and see it but they have their own agenda, the media has their own agenda.”

Today, Trump posted on his Facebook page a video titled, “American Muslims celebrating 9/11.”

The footage begins with a statement from a now defunct website whose leaders have been convicted of making violent threats celebrating Nidal Hasan, who murdered thirteen people at Fort Hood, and then features a CNN segment about two converts to Islam, one of whom was a founder of the website and has since denounced terrorists attacks, who declared their support for Al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden.

So, Trump claims he saw “thousands and thousands” cheering 9/11 on TV and even his own campaign can identify only two.

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old comment by Canadiest

The sad thing is, we're used to this shit from America. Assertions from their chosen ones, with no evidence and even massive evidence to the contrary means nothing. It's the real danger of combining the religion with the politics, one never needs evidence for the religion and the assertive, even 'God inspired' candidates claims are also accepted without justification as well.

And Trumps only qualifications for 'God inspired' is that he's never bitched much about Christians, that's literally it but he's so full of hate, bluster and racism he's got most the evangelical Republicans in his corner.

Just fire up a fundamentalist preacher vid from YouTube, within minutes you'll hear ridiculous claims, predictions of things sane people know won't happen (like everyone being forced to be gay, a regular claim) and suggesting anyone who does not believe it or isn't part of their church is stupid. Oh, and in the end of course, everybody else will be yuuuuuge loooosers.

old comment by Grey Rook

@whatever : I feel the need to state that my knowledge of the US election scene is limited, but the Republican party has gone to such lengths to disenfranchise everyone who disagrees with them (which is most people) that their own third or so of the electorate is almost half of all the remaining voters.

Thus, all it takes for them to win is a fifth or so of all the Democratic voters staying at home, which is easily accomplished since most americans don't give a shit who rules the country no matter what their voting stubs say.

The United States of America might be the first nation in history where the majority of the people hate the government, and yet there is no sign of rebellion or even riots over the fact that their rulers openly disregards the best of the people in favor of enriching themselves, which in this case means that the fascists have a very good chance of getting into office no matter what the opposition or the people says.

So, in summary, no. There aren't enough fascists in the country to take over the White House. But, since most of their opponents either can't vote or doesn't care to...

old comment by Kuno

Do you remember only a few years ago? Mitt Romney’s “47%” comment resulted in a scandal and media scrutiny, and he only dared to make that remark where he thought were no cameras or microphones.

Today the GOP candidates openly and proudly say stuff on stage and on camera that makes it harder and harder not to ask Mr. Godwin for some exception from his law. And even if someone dares to call them out for it (or even only politely asks about it) they not only don’t back down, no, they pile on even more bullshit and whine about the media’s “gotcha questions”.

When exactly in the last four years did the majority of US media stop to do their goddamn job?

old comment by Jeff Weskamp

@whatever:

Well, I certainly hope that Trump doesn't get into the White House (it's not likely, but I'm a lot less confident than I was six months ago). However, Trump is looking like he may well get the Republican nomination. He's over 10% ahead in the latest polls among Republican voters. And frankly, every time Trump says something appalling, the Republican base likes him even more.

Trump is simply saying things out loud that many, many Republicans think to themselves.

@Kuno:
The press has been doing their jobs for the most part during this election. They have dutifully reported every heinous and appalling thing Trump has said, from his "blood coming out of her whatever" remark about Megyn Kelly (which my sister feels should have instantly destroyed his campaign) to his "Mexican men are rapists" remark. Hell, they even gave good coverage about the Black Lives Matter activist that was beaten up, called the N-word, and thrown out of a Trump rally (with Trump's approval).

The horrifying thing is, none of these well-publicized incidents and statements have harmed Trump's poll numbers. Hell, they seem to have helped them!

old comment by Anon-e-moose

...meanwhile, there are Muslims in the US...:

...who - with good, honest hard work - just want to make their way in American society, and gain their slice of American Pie.

And in just one stroke, I have found more than two Muslims - and in San Antonio, Texas: the 'Buckle in the Bible Belt' no less; their restaurant 'Moroccan Bites' - who are celebrating what the US represents: Freedom.

Speaking of Texas, at a 'jolly-up' you organised there not so long ago, you had 20,000 attendees at such. In a state - the largest in the Union - with a population of 27 million+; is that all?!

...or are they just a rent-a-mob of cocksuckers you bus around? You can certainly afford these whores to fulfill your Attention Whoring, Donald Fart.

Meanwhile, just keep giving the Democrats more ammunition to use against the Repubicans, if they dare nominate you. With much Spartan emphasis on the 'If'.

--EDIT--

As Mr Farty-boy would say:

As he is 24/7/365. X3

old comment by Grey Rook

@SpukiKitty : Man, I hope that's not the case. This is one of those times when I'd rather be wrong.

But like you said, the Republican base is being whipped into a frenzy of nationalist fervor. If the Republicans' attempts at disenfranchising their opponents succeed, they could very well end up taking the White House. And that does not lead anywhere good, for anyone on the planet.

I am and remain firmly convinced that Trump will start a nuclear war if he ends up president.

Hopefully, of course, the Democratic party will be able to stop the Republicans from taking the presidency long enough for the current crop to either die off, or quit politics in disgrace. But I cannot help but worry that my country will be destroyed as the result of some lunatic taking power in the US.

And on a lighter note: you're cool. I like you.

old comment by Tempus

I'm sure that there WERE some Muslims celebrating after the 9/11/01 attacks. Somewhere.

But not as the Twin Towers fell, since that implies that Muslims are some sort of Borg-like hive-mind that instantly all know everything that one of their members experience, or that--impossibly--"thousands and thousands" of Muslim-Americans in one city alone all had advance warning that the Al Qaeda attack was going to happen, and not a one of them bothered to tell anyone. Because in the hours immediately following the attack, virtually no one knew a damned thing, other than that some group of people had decided to weaponize passenger jets, and no one would have had reason to be celebrating unless they just happened to randomly hate New York City, and cheer whenever anything bad happens to the "godless Northeast." Oddly enough, I happen to know a few Redneckistanis from the Republic of Jesusistan who were doing exactly that. They also cheered Hurricane Sandy, and the Newtown massacre, because they're monstrous douchecanoes. But I digress.

In the weeks following the 9/11/01 WTC attack as more information surfaced, most Muslims in this country were staying as small and quiet as they could, because they knew that people like Trump would be ready to use them as scapegoats at the least provocation.

And...they were right.

@Jeff Weskamp: I'm not even sure that Trump losing would prevent it at this point, since each of the Republican candidates is just as awful as Trump. Even if Bernie or Hillary happens to win, it may just put it off an election cycle or two.

Trump has tapped into the same kind of festering resentment and hatred that Hitler did. There are millions of bitter, enraged Americans who are increasingly angry and frightened of the changes in the world around them and looking for anyone to slake their rage on, whether they're illegal aliens, Muslims, liberals or what have you, and they'd be willing to follow anyone who promised them blood off a cliff if they had to. The quotes section of this site is living proof, but really, just watch the news now, or turn on Talk Radio and listen to it for a few hours.

Trump isn't the cause. He's just a convenient fuse. There are millions waiting eagerly for their Nehemiah Scudder, and they've been around for years. They're not even a majority, but really, it doesn't take one. A highly motivated minority with the right direction is all that's needed.

And they're getting very, very loud now.

old comment by Swede

I'd say that the odds are better that "thousands and thousands" of Conservative Americans celebrated the Utøya massacre, when Anders Behring Breivik killed socialist youths at a summer camp in Norway.

@ #1890283 and MyParentsJesusCantBeThisYandere
Sweden has a nationalist party in government. The latest poll says 20 percent of the population would vote for them, had it been election today. As we have eight parties in government, 20 percent is A LOT. So far, none of the other parties have been willing to work with them, but the two furthest to the right seem to open up to cooperation with them.

Norway, Denmark and Finland also have nationalist parties in government.

old comment by Doubting Thomas

Also; The comments here are getting dark. Stop that!

Well I for one am very optimistic that the Rethugs won't be able to win the White House in 2016, whether they run Trump, Rubio, Cruz, or Carson (not likely seeing as how his star is fading). After all, they couldn't keep a Kenyan-born Nazi Muslim communist Satanist out of the White House for 8 years. The Republicans are focusing only on their angry white Christian male voter base like they always do and haven't learned anything from 2012. Or the ones who have are the ones who don't want Trump as their candidate because he's not electable, and he's going to do lasting harm to their feeble efforts to appeal to minorities. I suspect 2016 will see more mega conservative butthurt and whining like we did after the 2012 elections. I don't think the angry white guy vote is big enough to win elections, and it's been shrinking every election. Even if they "get out the vote," I don't think they'll be able to get out any more than Democrats will.

old comment by Old Viking

For eight years now, rabid right-wingers have assaulted us with their lunatic, xenophobic, racist, anti-women hysteria. Trump realizes that this audience cares nothing about objective facts. They will accept any statement that appeals to their paranoid fantasies. The less resemblance it bears to reality, the greater their approval.

If you haven't visited for a while, look again at Triumph of the Will, Leni Riefenstahl's film of the 1934 Nazi Party Rally in Munich. As you do, remind yourself that Germany was considered one of the most advanced and cultured nations in the world. It was also referred to as "The most Christian country in Europe."

old comment by Kuno

@Jeff Weskamp:

Oh, they are reporting these things. Once. What I meant is the follow-up. Why doesn’t every reporter in every interview keep asking them about the outrageous things they said and their ridiculous politics and plans until they give real answers? The one debate the moderators dared to ask even the simplest questions the GOP candidates got in a huff, clutched their collective pearls and demanded easier questions for future debates. And the media lets them get away with it.

That’s what I meant with the Mitt Romney example. Only four years ago the Republicans only dared to make such (superficial true) statements behind closed doors and when it came out they were scrutinized and Romney was constantly asked about it and even denied that he ever said it.

Now the candidates frequently make blatantly untrue statements in public and no one seems to bat an eye except to say “Oh, here is the next lie or insult from Trump/Carson/Cruz/rest of the clown car. Now the weather report.”

@Insult to Rocks:

It’s hard not to break Godwin’s Law when there is a political party which’s officials openly call for things like putting members of a specific nationality and religion into camps, registering members of a specific religion and even tell people not to buy in shops run by members of a specific religion. Even more so when some of the party’s candidates seem to be perfectly OK with their followers using violence against people with different opinions.