Unfortunately circumcision can't prevent boys from M[asturbating]. My husband is circumcised, as tightly as it can be done, and he abused himself three times before we married. It probably reduces the chances of it happening or makes it less rewarding for them but I don't think it stops it.
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If the purpose of circumcision was to make it painful for males to masturbate, I would fight to have the practice banned outright.
I'd say that's a good thing, myself. I've never understood just what's so awful about masturbation anyway. It doesn't hurt anybody, and any arguments about potential offspring are nonsense. And I certainly don't think that genital mutilation is at all a good thing. I'd argue that attempting to make sex less enjoyable, or even painful for someone counts as abuse.
Whenever I hear these stupid comments, I get an insane mental picture of someone screaming in terror as they "abuse themselves." Like some freakish split-brain thing. I mean, really, now. Abuse involves some kind of physical or mental damage, and there is no evidence for either one in this case. That is, unless you're a fundie who convinces yourself that it's sinful and feels terrible shame about it.
Consider the source: This girl had her husband wear a spiked piece of metal around the base of his penis before they were married so that getting an erection would cause him physical pain. And they got married when she was 17 against her family's wishes by getting a letter of reference from her priest. And they had a morning wedding so they could devote the rest of the day to finally having sex. For someone who thinks MASTURBATION (see, it can be written out fully!) is so dirty and premarital sex is a sin, she didn't waste any time getting married underage so she could fuck her little Catholic brains out.
Male circumcision is or was believed to inhibit masturbation; that's why the practice of male circumcision became widespread in English-speaking countries in the nineteenth century, when there was moral panic against masturbation (ref ). By all accounts, it doesn't work.
TheMissus,bigoted to see the good in people. DEN OF VIPERS, that is what you are.
"Brent, you are defending a vile and sick person, and attacking a decent person. I dont expect you to know any better." Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! This is what you are doing by attacking Marie. Yes she is naive, but she is not a cruel person. She is actually very sweet.
The Missus, by contrast, has always been very nasty, and I sincerely PITY her husband. Have you seen a picture of that woman? She has DYKE written all over her. Maybe that's why she married that pony-tailed, pussy-whipped pretty boy she calls her husband.
So sad...
They have internets in 1890?
Brent, you call TheMissus "You are a vulgar, disgusting excuse for a woman," "nasty," and a "DYKE."
TheMissus,
"Brent, you are defending a vile and sick person, and attacking a decent person. I dont expect you to know any better."
I feel greatly sorry for you. Isaiah 5:20 says, Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! This is what you are doing by attacking Marie. Yes she is naive, but she is not a cruel person. She is actually very sweet.
The Missus, by contrast, has always been very nasty, and I sincerely PITY her husband. Have you seen a picture of that woman? She has DYKE written all over her. Maybe that's why she married that pony-tailed, pussy-whipped pretty boy she calls her husband.
So sad...
(Because I know Bwent will wuss out and delete his comments)
Wow, my husband is a pussy-whipped pretty boy because he has a ponytail? That's fascinating Brent, because your picture (which you cowardly removed) proves that you're a skinny little boy who could get his ass kicked by a bunch of first graders.
You're welcome to come to my house and call my husband those names to his face. We just spent the day at the shooting range and he'd be happy to prove his accuracy on a moving target. Unlike you, a coward who advocates military enlistment for all males over 16 but doesn't have the balls to enlist himself, my husband is a veteran and overall not a guy anyone would like to mess with.
It's rather telling that Bwent's harshest insult is to question his opponent's sexuality and femininity/masculinity. Why is that, I wonder? Maybe because he's so insecure about his own sexuality and masculinity?
Go back to CF, you little weenie.
TheMisses,
Wow, den of vipers...
This girl had her husband wear a spiked piece of metal around the base of his penis before they were married so that getting an erection would cause him physical pain.
Does anyone else find a certain similarity between fundie habits and good clean S&M? I'm sure there are plenty of people who would find this idea quite... stimulating.
TheMisses,
It's rather sad that you feel the need to attack my husband in an effort to get at me. Why don't you have the balls to attack me directly, without laughably questioning my sexuality and femininity? Why are those insults your go-to attack? Is it because you're so sensitive? Because so many people assume you're a homosexual based on your looks, so you assume everyone else has the same hangup?
My husband actually LOL'd when I showed him your posts. He's not insecure about his masculinity in the slightest, so you'll have try harder next time. You failed this round.
And for such a "godly" little moppet, you certainly have some salty language. Do your cronies at CF know what a naughty boy you are here?
Ok, so, according to you, urges that natures gives us to procreate are not reason enough to have sex.
Underage sex, codpieces spiked on the inside, and a morning wedding so they can fuck all day.
"My husband is circumcised, as tightly as it can be done, and he abused himself three times before we married."
The Missus: And they had a morning wedding so they could devote the rest of the day to finally having sex. that inexperienced, they aren't going to need the entire rest of the day. About three minutes should take care of it.
The purposes for circumcision are to prevent penile cancer, make men more comfortable, improve cleanliness/lower risk of infection, lower risk of STDs, and help him not be a minute-man with a partner. It's a wonderful practice and doesn't effect masturbation at all. Trust me.
[The purposes for circumcision are to prevent penile cancer, make men more comfortable, improve cleanliness/lower risk of infection, lower risk of STDs, and help him not be a minute-man with a partner.]
Trust me, it has no effect whatsoever; I'm not sure where you got that idea from, but it's so wrong as to be funny. Circumcision is almost purely aesthetic, really.
Redhunter: on the priests sleeping with nuns bit:
You know it's interesting... Brent's only targets for his vitriol are women. Oh sure, he'll yap at men, but nothing like he does to women. He's at most just deluded and impolite directed towards men. But he's absolutely horrible to women.exactly as if he doesn't have the balls to attack men.
I've got an idea, Brent. I'm going to be doing a little cross-country road trip soon. How about you and me meet up and we'll see if your God gives you the strength to say to my face all the stuff you like to say behind my back?
You can even bring your rifle if that's what it takes to get you virile enough.
"You know it's interesting... Brent's only targets for his vitriol are women. Oh sure, he'll yap at men, but nothing like he does to women. He's at most just deluded and impolite directed towards men. But he's absolutely horrible to women."
TM, I am sorry that you have had to put up with CF/FSTDT's resident crossover moron in my absence. I have now, however, managed to find my way here, so I suspect his attention should be a-turnin' (provided he hasn't run away crying yet).
Oh, but it's a very butch wedding dress, apparently. It was all shiny with little beads on the bodice and showed a little cleavage. And my veil (which was actually my mom's) just screams dyke, don't you think?
Any schmuck can shoot, Brent. That is something that I can/will do.
LOL, TheMissus, I'm not a lesbian, but I'd honestly rather wear birkenstocks than beautiful white gowns. But I could just be nostalgic for my dreadlocks a little too much at the moment. ;-)
Tempus:
Lolrus, Hare Krishna for UrbanDictionary!
Actually, I served with several people who had flat feet. Never served with a pussy though.
Wow, Spektyr wins. Unfortunately, I think you cats scared Brent away for the time being. And if he does return, surely it'll be to whine and moan at TheMissus and/or myself, while likely making more Gawdless dyke cracks.
You know, there are times when I feel angry at the internet, for allowing the PURE UNBRIDLED IDIOCY AND FUCKWITTEDNESS of certain people to circulate throughout the world. There are few - still far, far too many, but there are few who should have been blowjobs more than ALL ACTION AMERICAN ZERO Brent here.
lol, "three times"
What, per day?
Circumcision is just bullshit anyway, and it doesn't stop guys from masturbating. I don't think anything could stop guys from masturbating. A guy could be sitting in the electric chair, facing death, and I guarantee, if he didn't rub out a good one at least once that day, he's doing it then. If your husband told you he done it three times BEFORE you were married, he means three times that morning. If a guy tells you anything less than three times a day, he's probably lying to you. There are exceptions, and at least once a week is probably not too far from the truth. Now, about this abuse thing...
If man is created perfect in the image of God, and is not even allowed to cut the hair and beard, how come he is allowed to mutilate his penis?
My husband's masturbation is none of my business.
The myth that circumcision will prevent masturbation was heavily promoted in the US by John Harvey Kellogg (yeah, the guy who invented corn flakes). Kellogg believed that it it deadened sensation in the genital area, which made "self-abuse" (a term he generally used) less likely. Did I mention that he performed the procedure without anesthetic?
Kellogg himself has some rather serious issues regarding sex. He believed it was unhealthy, He and his wife always stayed in separate rooms, and he boasted their marriage was never consummated.
Of course, the whole idea that masturbation is sinful and unhealthy is a myth. It is not explicitly condemned anywhere in the bible (note, the sin of Onan was refusing god's command to impregnate his sister-in-law to secure his dead brother's wealth for himself). Not that the bible has ever been a barrier for fundamentalists of course.
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Before he was swallowed by said whale, to ensure it was kosher, Jonah asked a specific number of Mohels expert in the use of scuba gear to perform the task. Yes, ladies and germs, he sent down four skin divers.
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As the prostitute (who specialised in handjobs) said after exiting the Tory Party Conference, with handbag stuffed to overflowing with cash, and complaining of a sore wrist.
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oh, honey, I PROMISE you, your husband "abused" himself way more times than three before he married you... And probably still does...
In most cases, a traditional secular USian "high and tight" circumcision, performed with proper technique, has no to minimal impact on masturbation frequency or sexual function and produces a mild to moderate reduction on sexual sensation during young and middle age.
A radical circumcision removes the majority of erogenous tissue. Such a procedure *can* significantly inhibit masturbation and reduce penile erogeny and sexual reward.
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