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What, exactly, are Wiccans and how do people get mixed up in this stuff? How can we witness to people who are mixed up in the occult?
What, exactly, are Wiccans and how do people get mixed up in this stuff? How can we witness to people who are mixed up in the occult?
[Replying to 'is there reasonable evidence for us to believe in God?']
Well here is one. As you know, animals produce after their kind. Evolution said that they produced other kinds. But we have never seen that. We see what God said in Genesis that animals bring forth after their kind. There is sorts of birds and they probably came from a commen ancestor, yeah and it was a BIRD.
can we "prove it"? no.
can we "know" it's true? yes.
we know it's true because God has given us faith to accept it. proof does not work.
Regarding the human imperfection, I can see how that would make sense, since it was written by a human, however the only other God-inspired document in the history of the world is proved to be 99.99% accurate, or so I have read through research and obviously believe by faith. I am obviously speaking of the Bible.
For example, Mormonism teaches things such as baptism of the dead, that Jesus and Satan are spirit brothers, that man can one day achieve godhood, that God has a body of flesh and bones, and that there is no salvation outside of the Mormon church. These are not only serious doctrinal aberrations, but they are so far out of line with what the Bible says, that Mormonism becomes not a Christian denomination, but a cult.
[On Mormonism]
i saw this movie last night and realized the connection and parallel it makes here. the whole gist of the movie is a computer generated actress that everyone has seen, talked to, heard of, but she didn't exist.
i am not asserting this as a substantial argument, it was a movie, but it is amazing that people can be pursuaded to believe in something when in fact it never existed.
Witnessing to Mormons is extremely difficult. I've had many opportunities online (on another message board), as well as a few opportunities face-to-face, and in all cases I've found Mormons to be extremely nice people who are wearing spiritual blinders. The cult of Mormonism is so ingrained in their thinking that the mere mention that they worship a different Jesus, different God, and that their religion is, at best, very loosely based on the Bible, just brings blank stares (in person), or quick changes of the subject (online). Mormon apologists also tend to be militant and sometimes downright sneaky in the way they present their beliefs -- everything is wrapped in scripture, but beneath the scripture is nothing but the Book of Mormon and the words of Mormon "prophets".
Think about it. No one alive has seen George Washington, how do we know he was real and not a myth created by our ancestors? In addition we have the testimonies of the changed lives over the centuries. How many today say their life was changed by George washington?
'wishful' or 'magic thinking', which is basically about "I want it to be true and so it is". This is frequently encountered in scientists who want to prove their hypotheses; their minds interpret data in a certain way because it supports their ideas.
Muhammed was a false prophet. Islam is a false religion.
Jesus Christ is the only way to The Father.
[When Jerry Falwell remarked that Mohammed was a terrorist, resulting in a riot]
i watched rev. falwell on 60 minutes, and had the opportunity to meet him and him he speak last week. after meeting him in person, seeing his heart, and listening to the interview, i can't help but agree with what he said. muhammad was a man of war and was willing to use violence to move his religion around the world.
the muslim community can get mad about what he said and call him names, but the reason most americans aren't responding in a voice of opposition against the reverend falwell is that they agree with him and his conclusions.
[On being told that the Golden Plates of Mormonism had more witnesses than the Resurrection of Jesus]
Suppose that [Joseph] Smith and the others did have a vision. Isn't Satan capable of deception? Though there were those testified to the vision and/or seeing the plates . . . if their witness disagrees with the Bible - I can not accept thier testimony as valid regardless of their sincerity.
[On the credibility of Mormon miracle eyewitnesses] two men could say they went fishing and caught a 20 pound fish and that they ate it. When in fact, they may not have caught a fish at all. Just because these two men give testimony to these events does not make it truth. I know what we are talking about is of more significance than fishing, but the principle and philosophy still apply.