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Nine of Spades #psycho #wingnut christianforums.com

If Donald Trump declares martial law and installs himself as Supreme Leader of the United States for life, it will mean the end of democracy in America. Indeed, our constitution won’t have any meaning anymore. But ask yourself this question: is that really such a bad thing?

Frankly, I’d rather have Donald Trump as dictator than have our country suffer through 4 to 8 years of a Biden presidency, which would surely be far worse for America than a Trump coup d’etat. Come to think of it, I can’t think of anything that could go wrong in such a scenario.

Aussie Pete #conspiracy #wingnut #homophobia christianforums.com

I despise homosexuality. I would not want a gay teaching my children. If I say that publicly in Australia, I will be taken to court and sued for everything that I have. My kids are well and truly grown up, so it's not an issue for me now. I objected when the socialist greenies started brainwashing my 6 year old. That was 20 years ago. I was ignored but at least I was not punished.

Teachers are afraid to stand up for the truth. Men are avoiding teaching because they are presumed to be serial sex offenders, especially at primary level. Teachers here are constantly trained on the latest PC nonsense. George Orwell would recognise the approach. How teachers find time to teach is beyond me. That they are doing a lousy job is obvious. Kids struggle at the cash register to work out change. No wonder they want to eliminate cash. You need a degree in maths to subtract two from four. Don't start me on what passes for English these days. Even government data states that educational standards are in decline. The good new is that you can no longer buy a golliwog at the school fete. The world is so much better off. Not.

M Walter #pratt #fundie #dunning-kruger christianforums.com

I hate to be a jerk, but I really don't understand how anyone can accepts the tenets of evolution. It is irrational at best: lacks cause-and-effect, doesn't agree with basic thermodynamics, doesn't work mathematically, is contrary to the laws of probability, lacks empirical data, to name a few things, and besides it is really quite silly. What exactly do you get outta it...I mean the personal relationship?? There must be a great disparity in your life as your belief-system disagrees with reality so much.

sarahkuving #fundie christianforums.com

I am 34E and I have no problem with the size of my breasts except that guys are constantly staring at them, even when I dress modestly. Since it is causing them to sin, would the right choice get a breast reduction? It would solve a lot of problems because I wouldn't have to cover up as much and it wouldn't cause others to sin. It doesnt really matter to me if I am an A cup or an E cup, I'm still the same person. I've already talked to a surgeon but I don't know if I should follow through.

Jamdoc #homophobia #transphobia christianforums.com

You know, back before I had gotten back to the Word, back before I noticed how we were going down a slippery slope. I had been affirming. But I'll tell you what, it wasn't pride celebrations that made me more sympathetic to gay people. In fact, pride parades had the opposite effect. Dressing up in biker leather and bondage suits and cross dressing and acting in stereotypical ways made me want to reject them more than anything.

It was seeing gay people who seemed "normal", were well dressed, clean cut, and seemed to have normal family lives that made me think "they're not so bad afterall"

So if anything.

Pride month is destructive to their own cause if they're looking for acceptance.

"Drag Queen story hour" makes you wish we'd never stopped having a death penalty for them, not making you want to accept them being in society, especially around children more.

Aussie Pete #fundie #homophobia #transphobia christianforums.com

It seems to me that the current crop of young people have no idea about life. Of course, that applies to every generation. Since when has it been acceptable to pick and choose which laws to obey in civil society? Sure, people do. But there are consequences. God's law (far more than 10 commandments) is far higher than man's law. "I don't agree" is not going to cut it with God.

Perhaps you can pass this on to your daughters. "God created mankind in His image. He created them male and female. Full stop. The gender blender alphabet soup brigade are in total rebellion against God's purpose in creating the human race. If a person is born with the physical attributes of a male, that's what he is. Likewise female. Not liking your gender is rebellion against God.

Same sex relationships are likewise rebellion. God's commission to Adam and Eve was to be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth. Same sex relationships cannot produce offspring."

God does not demand that you understand everything. He does expect obedience. Disobedience has consequences. God does not (as yet) punish people directly. He simply allows sinners to do as they please. You may think that the world is a better place. On some criteria, you are correct. On the issue of personal freedoms, equality, justice, the right to work for a fair wage, mental health, drug addiction, freedom of speech, no, the world is not a better place. It's getting worse - just ask the citizens of China and minorities in India. Free speech is under threat in Australia. We have no constitutional right to free speech. Our kids can barely spell, have poor maths skills, lousy grammar and low financial literacy. However, they spend time learning about "gender diversity". Woe betide the individual who questions the education system's priorities.

Ilovecartoons #fundie christianforums.com

[Second law allows local decrease of entropy, which is all evolution requires.]

The local decrease is ALWAYS temporary, which is what Evolution DOESN'T require. You have to keep defying continually.

The 2 law says anything LEFT TO IT'S OWN DEVICES tends toward DISORDER. Adding energy does NOT do anything unless the energy is AVAILABLE FOR USE.

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drfeelgood #fundie christianforums.com

I'm not going to offer my opinion on the actual interracial marriage, although they were forbidden in the Bible. What I will say is will somebody PLEEEEAASE think of the children. haha. No. It's true. All kidding aside. Nobody bothers to think of them. They don't fit in anywhere and are thus segregated from their peers. They aren't black and they aren't white. Although they might be able to fit in on some superficial level, they don't have anything to call their own and it just isn't fair to them.

John MacNeil #racist #crackpot #dunning-kruger christianforums.com

When the geneticists with the Human Genome Project were able to isolate the loci clusters of gene that denote an individual's race, that science proved that white people couldn't turn into black people and black people couldn't turn into white people. If the two different races bred, they would get some mixture of the two but they would never get a pure black or a pure white breed. That means that the original individual races are actually separate species. I'm sorry kids, but that's the new science. You'll just have to get with the program and grasp the new realities. Science isn't going to stagnate and wait for you to catch up, it's just going to keep right on truckin'.

Armistead14 #fundie christianforums.com

How God tortures will be up to him. There will be millions in hell that never heard the gospel, like the Indians, ect...so maybe they won't be tortured as bad. Then take teens, whenever they pass age of accountability, say 13, probably a few million have died over time before they reached 18, who knows had they lived longer they may have accepted, so maybe they will get a break. Millions are born in cultures and by birth taught something else and will believe it, so they shouldn't get the worse levels.

Course, think about the Jews duing WW2 and how surprised they will be. Over 6 million, 95% loved God more than most, but like most still waiting for the Messiah and didn't accept Christ. I'm sure they were sincere, being tortured by the Nazi's. To them their only hope was God. Can you imagine how they will feel, to go through all that torture on earth and then face the God they prayed too and he'll place them in eternal hell where Hitler's torture won't compare....probably just part of the generational curse on the Jews, but I would think they would be tortured less, because they loved God, but why should they get less, they denied Christ. In reality the majority of Jews will face eternal torture.

Really, with probably 80% of people going to hell, they all go for not accepting the gospel. I would assume God chooses who goes there. Face it, if you or I was born in Iran, we would be Muslim, so we're lucky to be born in the USA.

I don't see any levels in hell, but some believe it. Just be glad you're not going, to face torment on a level man has never done to man, where a trillion years is not even a second. We all will have many family members there which is sad, but God will erase them from our minds so there will be no tears in heaven, only pure joy.
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AV1611VET #fundie christianforums.com

Cryptozoology in the Bible pwns Evolution

Following is a list of animals found in the Bible:

fowled bat
behemoth
leviathan
four-legged grasshopper
satyr
unicorn
dragon
straw-eating lions

I contend that these animals are problematic for evolutionists.

Autumnleaf #racist christianforums.com

[In a thread questioning the ethics of ending apartheid]

Thats just it. Most of the people who were subject to the racism are worse off now than they were back when apartheid was in place. You've just arrived at the heart of the question.

Under apartheid South Africa was more of a modernized country where the trains ran on time and there was enough food for everyone. Since apartheid was abolished corruption is rampant and South Africa is starting to run like the rest of Africa, rife with corruption and lots of hungry people.

Marie D #fundie christianforums.com

Unfortunately circumcision can't prevent boys from M[asturbating]. My husband is circumcised, as tightly as it can be done, and he abused himself three times before we married. It probably reduces the chances of it happening or makes it less rewarding for them but I don't think it stops it.

AV1611VET #fundie christianforums.com

[To some of us, the concept of eternally torturing people is evil.]

That eternal torment is for their benefit --- consider this:

Right now the Holy Spirit is here keeping evil at bay. Despite this fact, we've had our Neros and Stalins and Hitlers and Pol Pots, etc. People who have done unimaginable evil things to others.

Now picture Hell without the fire and brimstone: nice houses, quiet streets, beautiful gardens, lakes, and ponds. Plenty of fishing, hunting, hiking, whatever your heart's desire.

And best of all: no God - no Bible - not a Christian in sight! In fact, it's an Atheist's Paradise; with survival-of-the-fittest and natural selection a daily occurrence.

Now all of a sudden, Nero shows up, then Stalin, then Hitler, then Pol Pot. Can you even fathom how those men would turn your little paradise into a torture chamber for all eternity?

No --- God is not going to let that happen. You see, He made provisions for that --- even in Hell; because Nero and Stalin and Hitler and Pol Pot are going to be too busy with their own problems to be thinking of anyone else.

Me --- I'm taking the cool way out --- through Jesus Christ.

lily00 #fundie christianforums.com

[Explaining how calculations were made for the unlikelihood of Earth being able to support life]

They looked at what humans needed for life. I don't know what the big deal is about the laws of physics. Can't the laws of physics be different in another planet if there is one? I agree with many of the points the movie brought out though, like needed liquid water, the right amount of sun, things like that. If there is another planet out there, they probably have the same Holy Bible we do and everything. Really cool.

AngryNotice #fundie christianforums.com

gravity in of itself is a joke. the way it reads you would think that objects of more mass have more gravitational pull than those of less mass, but if that is the case then why do we see the moon obiting the earth and not the sun???? or why does jupiters 'gravity' have more effect on meteors than the suns 'gravity'? scientists must be blind to these occurances...howsad...

mo cooler #fundie christianforums.com

I don't understand how in the last 75 years or less, christianity has been thrown out of schools, and been replaced by the theory of evolution. The biggest problem i have is that they the existance of God is up to each individual to decide for themselves.... but yet they teach the ideals of evolution, and require students to study this theory in order to pass basic classes required for graduation that goes agianst christianity.

AV1611VET #fundie christianforums.com

Like I always say, I'll agree with science only insofar as it doesn't disagree with the Bible --- when it does --- then it has to go.

If you say these endomorphic regional virii (?) attach themselves to my DNA w/o my permission --- who am I to disagree?

But if you say that shows I came from Magilla Gorilla, I disagree.

AV1611VET #fundie christianforums.com

(This fundie is talking about the Canaanite Genocide)

If God was responsible for genocide ... I promise you ... you would not even see one later on in the Bible.

In addition, there's that Catch-22 mentality you guys like to employ.

If they were to save the women, then you claim they were saved to be raped.

If they were to kill the women, then you claim it is genocide.

Your zealous false accusations are a dime a dozen.

mmbattlestar #fundie christianforums.com

Hello Wakalix. A creator is necessary because there is no other way that the universe can possibly exist. Think about it, the universe is so vast and creation is so unbelievable that there HAS to be a creator somehow. As an atheist I didn't believe it either like you don't but, it's the truth.

What evidence is there that scripture can be taken as a science text book? You mean besides faith? Well for one the Bible has predicted things since before Christ came to the earth. Like I said, it proved the world was round before Christopher Columbus proved it. It also proved in Genesis 3:15 that both men and women possess the seed of life (Sperm and the Egg). This wasn't discovered by science until the 17th century. These are just some of the things the Bible has proven.

Happy to Help #fundie christianforums.com

Here's my story.

There's a woman who I met at my old job. She would prophesy to me. Telling me that god says " your time has come my son." She tells me she's really into god and that god uses her a lot. As I start to got to know her more she would eventually tell me god uses her to cast out demons.
Here's her story she told me,
At 19 she had a dream where a beautiful angel came to her giving her a light. She was not sure what it was at the time, so she said just continued to be in the world going out drinking doing all that stuff. But she said ever since that dream she had that she could see right through people. Basically she says she can see their heart. She can see what people are " all about " if they are with god or not. She can even look at someone's picture and know what will happen in their future.i have to add that when I was about 14-15. I played the ouija board inside my bedroom with friends. I didn't know any better at all. For I have just became a christian late 2012

In her early 30s she told me that god punished her for about 7 years because of all the time she spent in the world after receiving that light from the angel. She said god punished her because she lived in a house where a witch lived. She said it was horrible because demons would knock on her door and every Friday the witch would watch a horrible horror movie and put the volume on so loud.she said would always have to walk with her bible and go to church everyday.

Anyway that's the background story I guess, this is my concerns.

Since I was convinced she was serving god I let her pray for me.(she's like 43 now) She lays hands on me and speaks in tongues over me. She told me I have a demon inside of me and that she can see him saying that the ouija board was the cause of this.And when she speaks in tongues that its god speaking to the demon. Every time she prays for me she always spits very bad. Almost to the point of vomiting. It's weird, no one else who serves in my church spits like that. She tells me she spits because that's the way her body reacts to demons and that she's spitting out bad spirits. Also when she prophesies she just looks different and her eyes get really red. She says her eye hurts from all the light she sees. She says that god just takes over and speaks over her using her lips. She also told me in the beginning that there's been a few people who think she's a witch but she denies it. I get a lot of panic and anxiety in my chest. That used to happen before I even met her though.

I had an extremely real dream, where in my dream I actually woke up. It was so real. My dog was next to me and everything just as he was in real life. Then out of a sudden it was like a tornado. I got thrown off the bed with the covers and everything and the book I was reading " destined to reign" by Paul prince was thrown down with me which was also on the bed next to me in real life. I woke up and everything was normal but my body felt so extremely scared. I also had another dream where my little niece was over me and I was on some sort of operating table and my niece was trying to convince me to let her snip with scissors at my insides. And being my niece in the dream I was going to let her so in the dream she said " ok just a little snip here and there" and right before she was about to snip away there was a voice in my ear that was very low almost like a whisper and it said "noooooo" and I woke up right away.

Sorry for the long detailed message. God bless all who reads and will be able to help me. I can answer any more questions you may have. This is really bothering me.

healingrainbow #fundie christianforums.com

(On a thread asking what Christians think of furries)

I think furry is a cartoon character. I don't believe that people can be one in real life. People can be very hairy but that just proves that person has a lot of hair. The amount of hair on your body doesn't make people any different because they still act and look human. You never see a person having dog ears. Animals are different in every way. God created us so that we are permanently human :amen:

And besides, people turning into furries is a evolution belief. I don't believe in that stuff, I only believe what God says because his word is the only thing that has evidence supporting it. I don't believe in something that sounds illogical. This is what I believe so don't try to get me to believe in evolution! You can't get me to change my mind, so don't bother!!!

ExodusMe #fundie christianforums.com

I guess the question's purpose is mostly to tackle the assumptions of Christians who prefer a pluralistic society over a theocracy. I understand theocracies have failed repeatedly throughout history, but if the intention of the Church is to be in communion with God, shouldn't our government be that way also? Even if we attempt to have a theocracy in America and fail, wouldn't that be better than a democratic society based on the popular opinion of heretics, apostates, & infidels?

FutureAndAHope #fundie christianforums.com

I have been out trying to represent the LORD in street evangelism of sorts. One time I was out trying to witness and I found it had to do so becasue of the crowds. But a man sat beside me and blashphemed, using the name Jesus as a curse word. Instantly I turned to him, not me but the Holy Spirit, spoke out "You better respect that name for Jesus is coming", the Holy Spirit then cause me to stare upward at the sky, it was a sunny day, then I began to say "Jesus is coming back, soon", and you need to repent of your sins for God is a God of purity, not homosexuality or lust. I was interrupted by a police officer, and as I stopped speaking it began to pour with rain, when the sky had been clear.

A second time I was out and wanted to try to prophecy, all that keep coming out of my mouth when I opened it was "Jesus is coming soon you had better get ready"

I have also over the last few years had a few end time dreams that would suggest Jesus is coming back with in our generation, like almost too soon for most to cope with.

Some of these dreams lead me to believe that before Jesus returns demons will mimic an alien invasion when they are released form the abyss onto the earth. I have just last night made a website about this at www.ufno.online

AV1611VET #fundie christianforums.com

This actually doesn't require one to be a Rhodes scholar to figure out.

Unlike the gods of polytheism that you guys are accustomed to falling back on, God is always right.

In fact, He cannot do wrong.

So anything He does, He does it right.

Let's see you reconcile this paradox:

Exodus 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.

Ecclesiastes 3:3a A time to kill,

AV1611VET #fundie christianforums.com

(For context, he is talking about God killing babies)

What's to deal with?

God pointed and said, "sic 'em"; and they obeyed.

Wouldn't you have?

(...)

I'm not denying anything, chief.

I'm even agreeing with your lack of understanding -- (unless you're just faking anger & frustration, which is probably the case here).

The Bible says it, that settles it.

God documented what He did, when He did it, how He did it, why He did it, what order He did it in, who He ordered to do it, where He did it, and who the eyewitnesses were.

And He certainly wasn't afraid of people like you coming along later to accuse Him of not following your standards.

(...)

I can't tell if you're disgusted because you think it was murder; or if you think it was murder because you're disgusted.

In any event, I think it was obedience, and I don't agree with the term "murder."

Slytherina #fundie christianforums.com

And there's no evidence of Jesus being black. It's only a theory. What if Marry and Joseph's families came from Europe? There must clearly be a reason, Why the Holy Spirit gives artists a vision of a white Jesus.

This black Jesus theory has no real evidence.

frienden thalord #fundie christianforums.com

The ideal you describe will come to pass one day, during the Great Tribulation. For three and a half years, there will be a great harmony between all religions. The antichrist will bring worldwide peace. All religions will become one, in the biggest ecumenical movement the world has ever seen.

OH you are very right on this point .
the weapon has done been formed. Its born now.
INTERFIATH.
Galatea you are right on this, very clear .
agnostics, atheist , lukewarm christains, muslims, buddits whatever the background
many even now are seeing the need for this , for world peace.
and it leads all who go under its delusion, RIGHT to the man of peace , the one who destroys many through peace.
In time this religion will be seen as the only way to have world peace.
Then comes the great tribulation, as the world cheers when ones like me
are eradicated from the earth. Hatred against the bible in this generation has skyrocketed.
and this religion swells in this generation, the religion that causes all to unite in time
and be as one voice has been born.
Humanity is not the answer. CHRIST is the answer.
But since man wants to be as god, soon he will have his god. and
their love and tolerance will be seen as hate and intolerance against the few true ones
who reject this lie , refusing to bow the knee to this god of humanity and his religion.

jimmyjimmy #fundie christianforums.com

[on the subject of healthcare]

God created the free market system. It's beauty is found in its simplicity and fairness. Two parties engage in a free exchange. Both get what they desire, as they trade what they want less for what they want more.

People have become very confused about what rights are. They often speak of commodities as "rights"; however, we know that nothing that can be purchased is a right.

frienden thalord #sexist christianforums.com

Christ did not come as a woman
the apostels were all male.
and if we heed pual he makes it very clear.
while a woman can teach , its other women she can teach.
but she cannot teach or ursurp authority over the man.
church leadership is AUTHORITY.
and I know women who follow this to the T.
they don't follow feminism..........they FOLLOW CHRIST.

Danny Denton #fundie christianforums.com

I am not surprised that you are unaware of Darwin's comments from 'The Descent of Man', because few people are. This is by design. It is not in the best interest of the secular cabal that controls this nation for the truth to be made known. Secularists have sold us a mild mannered Charles Darwin who would not hurt a fly. In truth, he was a cold blooded killer. He might not have closed the door and turned on the gas, but he is just as guilty as those who did.

[followed by selectively edited quote from Darwin, followed by two other commenters on the board pointing out said selective editing and hoping that these were not the OP's words]

Those are my words. Charles Darwin was a murderer.