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Gottservant #fundie christianforums.com

[Title: "If you feared God, you wouldn't evolve"]

Evolving is a sin. God made you with love and created you to be completely unique - different in a way that no one else is. To attempt to change that is to go against God's desire for you to be the best that you can be for His sake. Only someone who hates God, desires His creation to be changed so that there is no longer any reference to Him or His intentions.

If you fear God, do not evolve. God provided a way for us to be saved from our sins, even the sinful desire to evolve, by sending His Son to die for us on the cross. If we accept His sacrifice, we give up trying to evolve that we reflect God the way His Son reflected God, by reflecting His Son. A reflection is something that exists regardless of changes that go on around it.

When we go without evolving and God Himself (who does not evolve) does not evolve, we have known God.

AV1611VET #fundie christianforums.com

[Why do you reject evolution?]

I base it on four propositions:

1. The universe hasn't been around long enough for evolution to work.
2. Evolution assumes there's room for improvement.
3. Evolution and death are inseparable.
4. The Creator's Son didn't believe in it.

Smee012 #fundie christianforums.com

Find the truth now, before you stare him in the face on judgement day and deny him one more time. Dyrwen is dead... so is his so called theories. Maybe if you deny God some more.. you can say hello to Dyrwen in hell.

Athlon4all #fundie christianforums.com

Don't take into account any of the science or anything that is not of this world, and examine Genesis 1-3, and assk the Holy Spirit to show you what these chapters mean. Please, get the science out of it, and take the Word of God by itself. This is all I ask.

Windmill #fundie christianforums.com

scientifically, evolution can't be true, because it requires more matter to be constatly produced (we have more matter than a one cell creature) evolution is supposed to be a explanation of us without the use of the supernatural. Obviously, mass had to be created at some point by something, but it has been made that more can't be created

Brother Christman #fundie christianforums.com

If we're going to give those living the gay 'lifestyle' special rights, we must grant arsonists rights as 'fire bug' Americans, pedophiles rights as 'pederast' Americans, thieves rights as 'sticky finger' Americans, et cetera. You might as well flush the whole thing down the toilet.

Follower of Christ #fundie christianforums.com

Presenting the type of arguement someone may be using to that person just makes it sound like you're just trying to come of as overly intelligent and, honestly, to me makes one sound ignorant of the actual topic at hand. Almost like a diversionary tactic. You do NOT have to title someones arguement in order to debate. It sounds ignorant.

Assyrian #fundie christianforums.com

Romans 1 teaches that all atheists are liars who deliberately suppress the truth. Genesis proves that so called theistic evolutionists are no better than atheists. So if we want to find the truth in a court case, simply replace judges and juries with accredited young earth creationists. It would certainly solve problems like Dover.

MercyBurst #fundie christianforums.com

(Said in a thread about homosexuality, to a practicing Buddhist)

[Let me understand this: A population that is a minority, that is usually stereotyped as weak and effeminate, is overpowering you and the church that is the majority? Really?]

Actually satan has overpowered the liberal wing of the church. He is quite powerful. According to what I believe, he rules over your religion.

JohnR7 #fundie christianforums.com

For the people who worked in the twin towers and even the people of NYC, in a very short period of time things had changed quite a bit.

The world seems to be that way. One storm can bring about more change than 100 years of normal weather.

How do evos reconcil that changes come about so fast yet their theory calls for slow, gradual change.

living4thelord8 #fundie christianforums.com

[in response to a thread about being annoyed over inappropriate jokes being made at Christian couples' weddings about the wedding night being "the first time"]

I guess I'll be probably the only one in this boat but NOPE! I loved it! I loved knowing and everyone else knowing we had been waiting till our wedding day! It was the BEST feeling! (not that I went around bragging about it lol) but I loved it! I loved it all! lol God bless ya'll!

JEREMY O'ROURKE #fundie christianforums.com

[Replying to 'how can mentally retarded people accept Jesus?']I believe that people with disabilities that severe could recieve him by believing in him through their mind. They may not be able to communicate like me or you but they can still trust him through their understanding no matter how limited that their mind is.

Nadiine #fundie christianforums.com

(Thread whining about FSTDT!)

All I can say is, they should take a look at their own conduct to notice that they are equally obnoxious, harsh, hateful & "evil" as the fundies they're trying lynch for being the same.
I see nothing different in what they're doing to others. Talk about hypocrisy...

Raterus #fundie christianforums.com

You would essentially have to believe, or else face the consequences listed in the Bible. I would imagine you would still be bitter toward God, because he is essentially 'forcing' you to believe through proof.

4Jesus4ever #fundie christianforums.com

Let me ask you something. If you are an athiest why do you condemn Hitler. The concept of good and evil is defined in the Torah, The Old Testament, The Septuagint. If you do not believe in God why should we have love? That is an oxymoron! We should murder, rob, rape and pillage to the best of our ability. Remember now, we are animals. We evolved from frogs and lizards. What is the Law of the Jungle? Survival of the fittest. That means if I want something I take it!... The Romans had the right idea, if your an athiest. To make us happy on earth, man wants power, glory, worship, wealth. Anybody that stands in our way, throw them in the gas chamber, cut their heads off, torture them, why don't we... For married athiests, let me ask you this. If I like your wife, I can just take her. If you stand in my way, I can just strike you down. Remember this, I am an evolved animal and I have no one to answer to. Can you comprehend that concept? With that concept, you can boil and eat your parents when you get old and strong enough.

Theodor1 #fundie christianforums.com

Answer to the question: "Dont you think that if evolution could be disproven, it would be disproven by now?"

No one has ever disproven the atomic bomb, but that does not make them any less harmful. Nor does it minimize the damage they can do. Maybe someday someone will disprove the bomb and make the world a safer place to live.

hithesh #fundie christianforums.com

[Why does God allow evil things to happen?]

9/11 and the tsunami, as well as AIDs, is a punishment from God because of the acceptance of homosexuality by liberals. SO you can't blame god for this, blame the liberals for supporting the sinners, that caused God's wrath.

He did it in Noah's time, he did it to Sodom, and he has struck again.

ephraimanesti #fundie christianforums.com

Atheists have taken dishonesty to new and ludicrous heights by pretending to have sought high and low for evidence that God exists and, supposedly failing to find such evidence, have wandered off into the darkness mumbling that "there ain't no God." The problem being with this scenario, of course, is that the so-called evidence they have "examined" has been hand-selected to provide the pre-determined desired "proof" of the lack of God's existence. All evidence which WOULD prove the existence of God is, on one bogus pretext or another, disallowed. God is perfectly capable of proving His own existence--the problem is He can only work with open minds.

If atheists were REALLY interested in proof of God's existence, each one of them would look within themselves, find out what the inner need is which drives them to deny the obvious, get that need healed or met as the case may be, and start living like rational children of God. That worked well for me.

SUNSTONE #fundie christianforums.com

If you have sex there runs the major risk of getting pregnant, catching a desease or being emotionaly attached. Having sex is addictive, the chances that you will dogde all of these problems is almost 0 %. I found out the hard way by getting someone pregnant, and then later almost catching a desease and then falling in love with the girl who had the desease(not in that order). After I found out she had the desease I left her. That was pretty hard, people having deseases "will not" tell you, don't be fooled in thinking that you can tell the difference either. Condoms suck, I don't know anyone who uses them properly. I used them only when I finished, but you leak before then, and that is a major problem.

Raterus #fundie christianforums.com

It's funny how you will NOT accept God without proof, but you will accept other things without proof. No one has PROVED evolution yet, but yet you accept it as fact. There is a reason why it is the THEORY of evolution. At least be consistent in your beliefs

aphiz17 #fundie christianforums.com

I respect atheists like Nietzsche, who recognize and understand the implications of their worldview. If I believe that I'm the end result of two rocks colliding into each other billions of years ago, please don't preach to me about sending the $20 I'm going to use to buy a sack of marijuana to some starving kids in Africa...

TheDag #fundie christianforums.com

Yes I understand how scientists work. You see they compete for funding so they don't actually care what the other person is doing or if it is right or wrong. They just want to discredit them so they can get that persons funding. This is different to what Richard Dawkins tries to suggest is the norm. He suggests that scientists are more than happy to be proven wrong. There may be some who are but mostly they will fight tooth and nail over it not calmly walk up to the other person and say thankyou.

BigChrisfilm #fundie christianforums.com

The thing is, they believe, with out knowledge, that we know nothing, and are complete morons for believe what we believe, because they must be right, lol, the arogance it takes for them to compare us to Santa Clause is unbelivable. They act as if I have never research a tiny bit of my faith, and neither has anyone else, they are blind, and don't want to learn anything.

TruthTraveler #fundie christianforums.com

Where is the evidence for evolution? O wait there is NONE... How do you explain LIFE? How do you explain thoughts, dreams, emothions... Aliens, The Bermuda Triangle, Dinosaurs still alive in Africa and the Ocean... Look around you everyting was CREATED.

mikefromwichita #fundie christianforums.com

Yep no doubt that ['none of the Muslim business owners I know support terrorism. Period.'] translates into- I really have no interest in looking to find out whether the islamics I associate with are supporters of terror. One rarely finds that which they are deliberately NOT looking for.

bluetrinity #fundie christianforums.com

Miracles do happen. They are documented all the time. Also, if you say that Jesus didn't perform miracles (including being raised from the dead) you are merely questioning the historical accuracy of historical records. It is odd that biblical records are always questioned to the nth degree, but no one ever questioned if Aristotle ever existed. Either way, your argument is just another facet of "I doubt because the cost of not doubting would be prohibitive.

obediah001 #fundie christianforums.com

Yoyu are mistaken as gravity is a real force scientifically proveable wheras Eviloution has no basis in science as it is but an unproven & unprovable theory! U might as well try to prove & find the planet Kolob where the Mormon God(s) reside.

KarateCowboy #fundie christianforums.com

Whether you believe it or not, let us say for a moment that atheistic evolution is the answer. Not only that, we'll assume that abiogenesis is true(even though we still can't reproduce it). Please, just for a minute. Let us all assume it is true.

When you mix potassium and water you get a nice explosion.

When light hits a white subject, all the colors are reflected.

When you heat water to a certain temperature it turns to vapor.

When you heat other things to a certain temperature they turn to vapor.

When you lump a bunch of proteins and amino acids blah blah blah, and add a few billion years to it you get Pokemon.

Yes, that's right, Pokemon. Pokemon are a natural phenomenon.

What I am saying is that in this universe you have all these sets of conditions where if A happens then B is the result. If atheistic evolution is true, then emotions such as love, hate, apathy, desire, lust, and ideas such as houses, cars, boxer briefs, Hooters restaurants, Pokemon, Nintendo, katanas, Western style horseback riding, etc. are all part of evolution and are inherent in the laws of the universe. Think about it. An inherent trait of carbon + water plus other junk is disco dancing and an inherent, advanced form is D&D nerds.

So, what do you think about this?

ByGrace #fundie christianforums.com

No, not blood sacrifices. The sacrifices that are made to science are soul sacrifices. Those that want to embrace 'scientific wisdom' and shun the wisdom of the One who made our puny minds is perishing in their own wisdom. That my freind is sad.

AngryNotice #fundie christianforums.com

there are no missing links, they dont exist. it would be like finding a peanut butter sandwhich and having an evolutionist say "look, this was obviously a peanut butter & JELLY sandwich, but we dont have the proof to show there was any jelly". maybe, just maybe the peanut butter sandwich was designed without any jelly. it never was on it! these missing links that the evolutionists have is why hoaxes are created
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