[on the topic of online evangelism]
I'm sorta the same way LucciusJulius when I'm playing Halo on X-Box live, a great ice breaker to talk about my faith is to say: "You know Master Cheif isn't the only one who gave his life to save humanity."
I put my faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. Let's take a look at what evolutionists put their faith in:
1) Evolutionists put their faith in a mysterious primordial swamp that produced life from non-life.
2) Evolutionists put their faith in the fact that fish can morph into amphibians...that amphibians can morph into reptiles..that retiles can morph into mammals...that apes can morph into humans.
3) Evolutionists put their faith in thousands of common ancestors that have never been found.
4) Evolutionists put their faith in beneficial random mutations which have never proven to be random.
5) Evolutionists put their faith in natural selection, which has never even been tested.
6) Evolutionists put their faith in flawed dating techniques.
7) Evolutionists put their faith in the hopes that humans are actually apes.
8) Evolutionists put their faith in the hopes that a monkey can morph into a human simply by hopping down from tree branches and walking out into wide open spaces.
9) Evolutionists put their faith that a giant explosion could produce order.
10) Evolutionists put their faith that DNA could self-organize from randomly arising chemicals.
Here is a great example on how secular feminism is seeping into the church.. not good..
women should NOT be a pastor or priest. Simply because men where made in the image of God and women made in the image of MAN. There is a great difference..I remember I went to a Lutheran church to a wedding and their was a woman pastor. I couldn't believe it. It shows such a great defiance to the gospel and the torah..It is not their position..
Not covering your head is equivalent to a man growing his hair long like a woman. Very traditional catholics like nuns and devouts cover their heads..
However you can blame this problem on femenism. Femenism is nothing but a tool of Satan.. The word of god shouldn't be changed or twisted no matter what, we should follow what it says..
I really don't like Buffy The Vampire Slayer at all. #1. it's boring #2. It defys God. #3. We all know witchcraft, vampires, and deamons are bad, so why watch them create more evil.
Personally I feel that, the more kids that watch shows like Buffy, the more kids/adults we will have that turn to satan because they think all that stuff is cool. Yes there are some people out there today that are insecure enough to let television actually suck them in. I don't blame everything on tv, but there are some dumb people out there that let it influence them.
I'm not judging you, maybe you are strong enough to see past it. But, IMHO, I don't think it's right to be watching it. Just my 2 cents
[After Pascal's wager is debunked]Well, answer me this question--You may know something I don't know--does any other religion promise a worse fate, or even a fate as bad, for those who do not follow its beliefs as a never-ending sentence of punishment and anguish?
proofs are for scientists, and/or people with time to amuse people of your ilk, im an artist, i can go around making all the outrageous unsubstantiated claims that i wish. in addition to my own general apathy, the fact that you took that [pro-evolution] site at face value without investigatings its claims on your own (hey if its online its gotta be true) leads me to believe that youre immune to proofs anyhow. theres some logic for ya, thatll hafta suffice. 'prove this, prove that wah, wah, wah' hahahaha dude you know what i said was true, youre just trying to get me to do your homework, so to speak.
Everybody should be celibate. If Jesus is all that we Christians really need, then surely none of us need spouses.
I've got this guy's book, "Forbidden Archeology" and it's amazing how much data is buried by the scientific community -- they only accept what fits their pre-conceived paradigm.
To me, this shows that the rock dating system is flawed. The idea that modern-type humans with intelligent brains could have lived on this earth for millions of years is hard to believe. I do not believe, for example that it would take humans millions of years to figure out how to read, write, be artistic or grow crops in a field. These things showed up several thousand years ago, which is probably not too long after their creation.
Did you know that Carl Sagan NOW knows Jesus Christ is really who he said he was....! YEP.. I have proof of that.....AND you can dig that truth out of THE rock..that was on a hillside..
by killing the baby you are implying that that Human is an Animal, is that what you are saying? an animal has no choice on whether it lives or dies, thats a humans choice, so are you saying that this soon to be born baby is an animal i think you are mistaken.
[Replying to 'Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.']
The claim is not extraordinary. In fact, I would say that atheists' claims are much more extraordinary. I would think that almost every human being believes in some form of spiritual life. Atheists are the minority. But of course, they must be right, since they know what is really going on. Way to go...!
Are you trying to suggest that science learned something new? Imagine that, huge amounts of money is spent for research and now they actually have learned something to add to man's understanding.
First of all, it's a fact that Jesus died for your sins. In order to deny that, one would have to make up a new history that can't be documented by anyone in history.
But you cannot muster up faith by yourself. Only God can give you the faith to believe. So the first thing you need to do is ask God for faith. Then wait. It sounds like God is drawing you and Jesus promises that he who seeks will find. So every time you feel the desire, ask God for faith and He will give it to you. Sometimes God will wait until we come to the end of ourselves and have no more answers. Then we are completely open to hearing him. I'll pray for you too.
Just thinking of how severely the Janet Jackson/Justin Timberlake [bared breast] thing has impacted our society... Men will become more sexually emboldened and aggressive. More rapes will occur... Terrorists are probably more emboldened now. They already see America as the Great Satan, exporting filth around the world. Just more ammo to want to destroy us.
Oh, which reminds me, how is it provable that all this "evidence" of skeletons and DNA isnt some fabrication devised to act as "proof" for the unprovable? Modern technology can certainly create molds or modifications to a skeleton to make it appear to be something that it is not.
It means simply there is no such thing (never has been never will be )as an Atheist. What you have is Believers and unbelievers... Atheism is a pure impossibility.... you would have to know everything,that's why the fool has said in his heart there is no God,(what does that make the person who says it outload?) How do we know that there are no atheists? Even agnostics are not physically/mentally blind,even they know there is a God,God has made it CLEAR to them,but their hearts cannot accept this 'sight' so they say that they don't know!! Like the person who refuses to see what is in front of him,BECAUSE he keeps putting his hands over his eyes! It is truly shocking the power of denial,and none more so than denying God's very exsistence.They ARE (not might be) without excuse.Rom 1
Darwin started off as a student of natural theology, but then he defected and joined the other side. Without even knowing it, he became a father of sorts and lead 2/3 of science astray.
I just don't get what the atheists/agnostics on this forum need in order to convince them. Perhaps a burning bush? I think it is fear that keeps them in the state of unbelief. Fear traps unbelievers. Fear of moving out of their 'safe', 'logical', 'enlightened' thought-worlds.
You mean they "made love"? A husband and wife can't have s_x.
Also, I believe that there will soon be a visit to Heaven by over twenty people, and cameras will be allowed. The people will be taken to heaven for a visit and returned to the Earth the next day. I know that photos can be doctored and edited, but these will be validated by experts.
[After being repeatedly asked to provide a definition of "information" to back his claim that mutations cannot add new information]
I have defined it. "More information" is anything more than what God put there "in the beginning" when He created us.
None of your substitutions have any merit or basis in fact. Atheists deny God. They are the walking dead. Literally. They are noone going anywhere. Their existence is pretty much pointless when you think about the grand scheme of things... On the other hand, there are many Jews, Negroes and Irish people that acknowledge God on a personal and intimate level that have a purpose, that have a goal and have secured eternal life. You'll have to think of something better, I'm afraid.
It takes faith to believe the "creation" account and it takes faith to believe this world appeared from "nothing"... did we come from a "pond of goo" or did we come from apes? These "ideas" keep changing...what will they come up with next?
I'm sick and tired of that class, I dread it so much. I hate the teacher, and the Jewish kids who laugh at every arguement I make, and make fun of the pope and Christian values (they sneer every time they are mentioned.) I dont want to be an anti semite, but it seems like every Jew I know says HORRIBLE things about my religion. THEY HAVE NO RESPECT.
Does God want us to hate them? Does God want us to punish them? They aren't Christian, so do we have to kiss their behinds while they push us around?
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Let's try this again --- if it contradicts the Bible --- I automatically reject it.
I study it, and if something contradicts Scripture --- it's toast.
For instance:
* Science says the universe is 20 billion years old? This does not contradict Scripture. Therefore I take their word for it.
* Science says we came from chimpanzees? This does contradict Scripture. Therefore I automatically reject it.
* Science says varves exist? This does not contradict Scripture. Therefore I take their word for it.
* Science says varves are evidence of tens of thousands of years of history? This does contradict Scripture. Therefore I automatically reject it.
It's not dark age thinking. Dark age thinking is denying the facts, and atheism clearly tries to explain away God...
Show me one mutation that could turn a snake into a whale over any number of years? Show me a mutation that can reproduce to identical bilateral flippers on an organsim? Unless you think all the one flippered whales died out, just happend to never fossilize.
The brain is the fundamental unit of life – yet evolutionists attempt to explain life by completely ignoring it.
Because it [secular humanism] is satanic. If that weren't enough the jokes on their web sites are the worst imaginable. I mean if your going to have a joke section at least have one or two good jokes. If I were looking for a cult the joke section alone would kill it for me.
C.S Lewis married his wife Joy when he was in his fifties. Their marriage was a truly happy one by all accounts. Lewis says they "feasted on love." Soon after they were married Joy got bone cancer which meant certain death within a few months. But Lewis asked a certain minister to pray for her, and not only was she healed, but bones which were eaten away showed clear signs of being regenerated. In any case all concernd including doctors believed they had seen a miracle. Joy lived for two more years.
Lewis was of course overjoyed at the miracle and the extra years with Joy.
But when Joy died, he referred to God as a "cosmic sadist" in his anger and grief.
This is a perfect example of the Spoiled Brat Principle. We are so entirely lost and ungrateful that even the greatest Christian apologist will complain- in spite of seeing a miracle.
Questions:
1. Why would God want to heal anyone if he gets called names by Christians anyway?
2. Why should we believe all the skeptics need is proof, when it makes little difference to Christians thenselves?
3. Why should we believe a skeptic would not behave as Lewis did- or worse, at first very grateful to God, and then calling him names?
4. If Jesus came back and healed all the terminally ill patients in the world for two years, you would do what exactly, and for how long?
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BTW, this thread neatly nullifies the "Why does God hate amputees?" and other rhetorical questions.
[Responding to allegations that God acts immorally in the Bible]
God cannot sin. What is sin for us is OK for God. God can do whatever He wants, He's GOD!
I was reading that dogs evolved from wolves around 12,000 years ago, what I want to know is how a purebred wolf evolves into a Chihuahua, for one that doesn't seem like a long enough time, and two, how did the gene structure just change? I mean the wolf would have to have mated with something else. Oh wait that doesn't work.
Why can’t Atheists have promiscuous sex?
Because of the sexual exploitation of women,
Because Atheists don’t want to have a baby yet,
Because of abortion,
Because of HIV and AIDS
Because of Herpes
Because of Genital Warts / HPV
Because Atheists are not a result of Social Conditioning,
Because Atheists are not just slaves of sins,
Because of Syphilis
Because of Gonorrhea
Because of Chlamydia
Because of Hepatitis
Because of Scabies
Because contraceptives fail
The Fllod is not a myth, scientific evidence or not. God could have erased all the scientific evidence if He wanted to, because He is God!
I saw a documentary on the History Channel where they thought the Bible was a series of alien visitations. Moses went into a spaceship on the mountain and brought out the ten commandments and when Jesus was on the hill during the transfiguration the aliens came back and visited (you know Moses and Elijah because they had to be aliens too for it to make sense). Fine intelligent programming for people who would rather believe that aliens created or developed our race than have to come to grips with the facts.
those millions of "liberal" christians have the right idea, if they follow Christ. but liberalism itself, is a sin. just like any other
Bondage is an act of restraint meant to prevent someone from doing what they would want to do. that is not an act of love. People can and do get so twisted in their thinking by demons that they begin to like what is not nice. some people get a thrill (demonic) from being whiped and beaten, from being humilitated , from being degraded. Deamons are always their to try and drag you down to a lower level and they make it enjoyable. demons make sin pleasurable. handcuffing your mate and having sex with him or her in that state is degrading and perverted but it isnt extreme. its a first step down a road some demon is trying to take them. a demon will make that sort of sex act enjoyable for a while then he will take some of the joy away causing that couple to go deeper, next step the demon will suggest might be a little flaggelation. 'oooooooooooooh thats good more give me more I like that.' they might say. pretty soon though thats not enough cause the demon will withhold some of the joy they were experiencing doing that, then the demon will suggest something else. like mutulation, then next maybe a little branding, then next maybe a little ear stretching, then next rings in your tounge and nose and chin an d navel and nipples, then next hanging upside dwwon in a basement dungenon. then next maybe sacrifice to the demon, then next death.
[After rebuttal]
What you just posted is evolutionist crap.
People do not listen to that twisting of math!
That is just not how stalagmites work!
There is PROOF that stalagmites could very much form in a few days.
Man they are in peoples firdges! knock on some of your neighbors doors and peak in there fridges!
It changes nothing. Unlike atheists, we Christians are not easily swayed by the opinions and choices of others.
I believe in sterilization for women who do not want children and want to have sex without marriage. That would solve four problems.
1) clinical abortion
2) non-clinical abortions
3) unwanted babies
4) over population
As is my understanding, if Darwinism is true then there is no Christian God. Common descent says everything started from one single organism. The Bible, however, says that God created all living creatures... then Adam named them. That theory is against God.
[Replying to a poster going by 'Lilith']interesting name you got there... Lilith: she fled into the wilderness, where she mated with subterranean 'demons' and other beings, swearing that she and her children (the 'Lilim') would always prey on human children... some people think its cool to have the name of a demon for a message board i guess
It makes a difference because of cultural cohesion and the definition of nationhood. I think biblically speaking, it's pretty clear that racial segregation (not animosity) was begun and used by God, represents the natural 'order', if you will, and is a pretty positive thing overall. That said, I'm not condemning anyone who chooses to miscegenate. Again, I'm just concerned about the vilification of those who --for biblically and philosophically sound reasons--oppose it.
"Tolerance" is an anti-Western and indeed anti-human concept...its a lie.
Theorizing that any human skulls are directly related to non-human African apes by evolutionary descent is a form of scientific racism.
I am not educated like you but always find in my studies how poorly thought thru and poorly evidenced the claims of evolution and company are.
They constantly reveal how everything is based on minor data collecting and major speculation.
Evolution, as is, will come crashing down under pressure from more intelligent people entering these fields. they will undercut their teachers.
this is why creationists must histle to be in on the kill. Otherwise they will just revamp everything. I suspect ID'ers are the future. They will reject Darwinian evolution but pick up something more plausible.
A great aid to fight evolution, as is, is to just explain what it is. the public who accept evolution think its from complex well documented inner abilities of biology. to show them that complexity in biology is claimed to be from mutation and selection would astonish them.
Creationists need only show evolution in its claims.
The God of the Bible is very different from the other gods at that time. God always had a moral justification for war, rather than other gods didn't need that justification.
for the record, I think Halle Berry is not attractive at all and should not be used to support miscegenation. If anything she's evidence against it. I really don't get what people see in her.
[On a successfully fulfilled prediction]Isn't that handy. Science has a theory, perhaps based on archology, and now they have DNA and they claim the DNA record proves their already existing theorys. The new evidence should have compleatly overturned their existing theory. They should be having to scramble to come up with a new theory to explain the new information.
I'm really disappointed with this forum. This is my first post and people here are just as blindly sure of themselves as anywhere else, regardless of reality. I visited the creation museum the day it opened, and it is awesome. It's historically and scientifically accurate and well-designed. It is a great place for not only bringing new people to Christ but reaffirming the faith of existing believers.