you shouldnt have to prove there is a god. He made it so that way you didnt have to. All you need is faith, and if that isnt enough for somone eles, then thats there problem. Tell them that the book of god is enough proof, and thats why he left it for us. End of disscussion
Surely Atheists themselves are proof of demons, after all, there is no other human belief that does no harm to others that is attacked so intensely or with so much gusto. If you weren't simply trying to convince yourself rather than me, not only would you not be here, but you would just leave people to their own beliefs. Surely crazy people aren't worth wasting your time on, especially when there are 1 billion of them?
Here's my reasoning: Imagine that America had a King, where this King could order you to be hung with the snap of a finger if you displeased him. Would you then use his name in vain, knowing that it would upset him, and knowing that he would hear it? I certainly doubt so. So then why do people constantly use God's name in vain as if it is nothing? He knows when people say it, and He is upset by it, because it is great disrespect, whether it seems that way to us or not. Now of course God isn't going to kill us for it, but no man is perfect, so even that one single sin destines us to hell if we do not repent.
A lie is anything that can not be confirmed by the word of God. He does not leave us out here to guess at it. We can give the word test to anything to see if it is true or not.
[honest to goodness stationary geocentrist]
1. The bible would classify Galileo as a fool.
2. If the earth is spinning on it's axis we would have to be doing sideways somersaults.
3. A sideways somersault is also known as a cartwheel.
4. According to evolution, the cartwheel was invented by a neanderthal caveman.
I will stick with God, the earth is not spinning.
Evolution isn't a theory. It's an attempt to explain our existence (or current state) from a naturalist perspective in spite of the evidence rather than because of it. My eighth grade teacher would have called it a "myth" since he defined "mythology" as man's propensity to make up stories in an attempt to explain the unexplainable.
Richard Dawkins, teaches... that we who disagree with evolution are Ignorant, and stupid. Combine this with J.Huxley's eugenic speach and you have christian prosecution and the mark of the beast. For christians can avoid prosecution if they accept the mark of the Darwinian Christ.
It is the only widely accepted alternative to Creation for the origin of man or any other species. Regardless of how silly evolution is it cannot be abandoned until something besides believing in the bible and accepting the truth of Genesis can be conjectured. Evolution is a religion. It has ever changing doctrine. It is certainly not science in that it approaches the species issue from a completely opposite direction than that of science which examines the facts to form conclusions... And you thought no Christian understood Evolution.....
The existence of God is so plainly obvious. Frankly it's hard to miss.
I'd like to point out that neo-Darwinist "scientists" who evolved from monkey and ape ancestors in Africa aren't properly qualified to judge the American people, especially Jewish, Christian and Islamic people who are descended from Abraham's ancestor, Noah.
The only reason that you want evolution taught in our schools is because it will become much easier to turn people into atheists if they believe in evolution. You know evolution is most friendly to atheism, and that's why you want it taught to children at a young age.
[Least believable testimony ever]
I’ve seen blind people made to see again. I’ve seen arthritic people, once hunched over, straighten up and heard the loud snaps of their joints as they straighten up. I’ve actually watched the curved spines of those with scoliosis straighten in seconds. I’ve seen a girl with Down’s syndrome delivered. In mere seconds the trademark facial attributes were gone, her speech instantly cleared. I’ve seen an arm restored. Once severed below the elbow, I watched as a forearm, then a wrist, hand, and fingers generated in moments.
I’ve seen plenty of proof that God does exist and is quite active. So much more than even what I’ve mentioned. I understand that you may not have witnessed any of these things but that’s your fault and not mine. God shows Himself to whoever’s watching and doesn’t operate in a vacuum.
Can you show me your proof that He doesn’t exist?
[On hell being eternal torture]
Define torture. I am a father of two wonderful kids and I bet if you asked them, I would - at times - qualify (i.e. torture them). For example, when I take my sons game boy away.
['What makeup products have you used, even been recommended, that were absolutely horrible and did not live up to the hype?']
for me just anything to do with Covergirl. My friend is a cosmotologist and she doesnt recomend them because theres an ingredient in their liquid foundation that came off aborted babies. 'nuff said.
Well,...as expected.., no evolutionist could come forward and enlighten us with the information of which type of hominid female first gave birth to a Cro-Magnon baby. That eloquently says all that needs to be said about the validity of the evolution theory.
There is no proof to the theory of evolution but just wonderful imaginations being portrayed. Now there is proof of men and dinosours living together. There is proof of the massive flood that accord in the time of Noah.
The rumors that the Pentagon might repeal the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy are truly disturbing, to say the least.
Not only would this be a terrible disgrace to our Armed Forces; it would also add fuel to the terrorist flame. You think the terrorists hate us now? Just imagine, for a moment, how they'll react to an Army of Sodomites!
Let me make myself clear: I do not "hate" sodomites and lesbians. I have three friends who are homosexual: one sodomite, and two lesbians. I pray for them continuously that they might come unto repentance.
Due to their immoral, rebellious, and unnatural lifestyle, however, they ought not to be permitted into the Armed Forces, unless they remain silent about their lifestyle. It's just that simple!
[The whole point of this thread seems to be that your wife cut you off, and you think that is what "turned you gay". If I'm mistaken about that, then feel free to correct me.]
You never read the thread then. I am Christian, and not gay in any way, nor, by the grace of God ever will be. The thread is not about me, it is about women being selfish, and withholding. No can do. Women have no power over their own bodies. That is one major step needed in the absolute decay of a society, apparently. That happened back in the middle of the last century in a big way. It is a deception of the enemy. It led to hundreds of millions of real babies being killed. It also led to a narrowing of the sex pool, a crime against humanity. Also, where women also work because many feel they must have a career, millions of kids suffer the lack of a parent at home. Etc. Women are to blame for sodomy, at least as much as men. Really. And their sins are at least as bad.
Don't try to minimize the issue, and pretend it is about me.
[Did Jesus ever state: "No, I do not believe in Evolution!"?]
Perhaps you would like to explain your theory for the evolution of the virgin birth for us? While your at it, maybe you can also explain the theory of the evolution of the immaculate conception. I am sure that would be of interest for all of us
Nobody is an atheist.
1) Every conscious person is self-aware.
2) The universe has substance.
I feel atheists don't want to acknowledge these two statements.
Now it is becoming more and more where a person who believes homosexuality is wrong is going to be put in jail by the thought police. You watch!
[What would you do if you were gay?]
my current mindset is biased against joining that lifestyle and my mindset also says I would rather repent my sins and ask for forgiveness and then immediately attempt suicide.
[Explaining why humans and dinosaurs are not found in the same layers of the geologic column.]
Consider also that dinosaurs were much larger. Now, imagine violent seas and swirling sediment, the heavier animals and the ones with greater bone density would likely work their way down farther. There are still some smaller animals in with the dinosaurs, yes, but that could be caused from a number of things.
It says Cain was in the process of constructing a city, it doesn't say there was people in it. Genesis isn't exhaustive, but it doesn't say there was people in the city Cain was building.
[I fail to see the significance. I'm not an atheist.]
O... you are a theist? Come on now... There is a god, there is not a god... if you want to say there are many gods, does that make you a subset of theism or atheism?
Of course, you can not claim either, can you? That is because there can not be many gods. It is an illogical and insupportable thesis.
Just because it may also be "enjoyable" does not mean that a husband and wife are allowed to have sex with the use of contraceptives just for the "enjoyment" of it, as they are not allowing procreation to occur, so it is a sin. Same thing goes for any sexual act that is not done with the intent to have a child.
How is it that natural selection is purposeless, yet the word 'selection' implies purpose?
Because creationist(YEC) do not have the resources that evolutionist have to rely on. You would think that with all the resources they [scientists who accept evolution] do have that more tests would be done to disprove the existance of God instead of resorting to personal opinions and personal attacks of those who even dare to differ.
[The lack of evidence in support of the gods. That's basically why I don't believe.]
The lack of empirical evidence. Yet, that is not the only kind of evidence that exists.
You can't empirically measure wind, yet you know it exists.
Baby's have a special place in heaven and for the people like you that is not saved you better have fireproof shoes and clothes.
Why no flood evidence as man expects it? Perhaps because in the different past rapid seperation of continents the evidence was mutilated! Uplifted, disturbed, moved, and such! No wonder we don't see some silly uniform layer worldwide! Goodness, how did we miss such a simple thing for so long!? Wonderful. God was right all along.
And why do some many non-Christians get married? I mean, marriage is an institution created by God. It shows up in the bible initially. There is no other evidence that it came from somehwhere else.
[On light billions of lightyears away]
There is less gravity at the outside of the universe than in the middle. all gravity will be pulling inwards. I have read earth is towards the centre of the universe. So what happens with the light from a, lets say, a star from the perimiter of the universe, the light will leave that star and as it gets closer to Earth, the speed will slow down. So the more gravity, the slower the speed.
why would God not use Ouija Boards to spread His word? A friend of mine once asked it if God was real and He was Jesus. It literally flew to "Yes" and now she is a Born-Again Christian (not nessessarily just for that reason, but I know it helped) . I don't see how that is Satanic or occultic.
[on the topic of online evangelism]
I'm sorta the same way LucciusJulius when I'm playing Halo on X-Box live, a great ice breaker to talk about my faith is to say: "You know Master Cheif isn't the only one who gave his life to save humanity."
I put my faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. Let's take a look at what evolutionists put their faith in:
1) Evolutionists put their faith in a mysterious primordial swamp that produced life from non-life.
2) Evolutionists put their faith in the fact that fish can morph into amphibians...that amphibians can morph into reptiles..that retiles can morph into mammals...that apes can morph into humans.
3) Evolutionists put their faith in thousands of common ancestors that have never been found.
4) Evolutionists put their faith in beneficial random mutations which have never proven to be random.
5) Evolutionists put their faith in natural selection, which has never even been tested.
6) Evolutionists put their faith in flawed dating techniques.
7) Evolutionists put their faith in the hopes that humans are actually apes.
8) Evolutionists put their faith in the hopes that a monkey can morph into a human simply by hopping down from tree branches and walking out into wide open spaces.
9) Evolutionists put their faith that a giant explosion could produce order.
10) Evolutionists put their faith that DNA could self-organize from randomly arising chemicals.
Here is a great example on how secular feminism is seeping into the church.. not good..
women should NOT be a pastor or priest. Simply because men where made in the image of God and women made in the image of MAN. There is a great difference..I remember I went to a Lutheran church to a wedding and their was a woman pastor. I couldn't believe it. It shows such a great defiance to the gospel and the torah..It is not their position..
Not covering your head is equivalent to a man growing his hair long like a woman. Very traditional catholics like nuns and devouts cover their heads..
However you can blame this problem on femenism. Femenism is nothing but a tool of Satan.. The word of god shouldn't be changed or twisted no matter what, we should follow what it says..
I really don't like Buffy The Vampire Slayer at all. #1. it's boring #2. It defys God. #3. We all know witchcraft, vampires, and deamons are bad, so why watch them create more evil.
Personally I feel that, the more kids that watch shows like Buffy, the more kids/adults we will have that turn to satan because they think all that stuff is cool. Yes there are some people out there today that are insecure enough to let television actually suck them in. I don't blame everything on tv, but there are some dumb people out there that let it influence them.
I'm not judging you, maybe you are strong enough to see past it. But, IMHO, I don't think it's right to be watching it. Just my 2 cents
[After Pascal's wager is debunked]Well, answer me this question--You may know something I don't know--does any other religion promise a worse fate, or even a fate as bad, for those who do not follow its beliefs as a never-ending sentence of punishment and anguish?
proofs are for scientists, and/or people with time to amuse people of your ilk, im an artist, i can go around making all the outrageous unsubstantiated claims that i wish. in addition to my own general apathy, the fact that you took that [pro-evolution] site at face value without investigatings its claims on your own (hey if its online its gotta be true) leads me to believe that youre immune to proofs anyhow. theres some logic for ya, thatll hafta suffice. 'prove this, prove that wah, wah, wah' hahahaha dude you know what i said was true, youre just trying to get me to do your homework, so to speak.
Everybody should be celibate. If Jesus is all that we Christians really need, then surely none of us need spouses.
I've got this guy's book, "Forbidden Archeology" and it's amazing how much data is buried by the scientific community -- they only accept what fits their pre-conceived paradigm.
To me, this shows that the rock dating system is flawed. The idea that modern-type humans with intelligent brains could have lived on this earth for millions of years is hard to believe. I do not believe, for example that it would take humans millions of years to figure out how to read, write, be artistic or grow crops in a field. These things showed up several thousand years ago, which is probably not too long after their creation.
Did you know that Carl Sagan NOW knows Jesus Christ is really who he said he was....! YEP.. I have proof of that.....AND you can dig that truth out of THE rock..that was on a hillside..
by killing the baby you are implying that that Human is an Animal, is that what you are saying? an animal has no choice on whether it lives or dies, thats a humans choice, so are you saying that this soon to be born baby is an animal i think you are mistaken.
[Replying to 'Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.']
The claim is not extraordinary. In fact, I would say that atheists' claims are much more extraordinary. I would think that almost every human being believes in some form of spiritual life. Atheists are the minority. But of course, they must be right, since they know what is really going on. Way to go...!
Are you trying to suggest that science learned something new? Imagine that, huge amounts of money is spent for research and now they actually have learned something to add to man's understanding.
First of all, it's a fact that Jesus died for your sins. In order to deny that, one would have to make up a new history that can't be documented by anyone in history.
But you cannot muster up faith by yourself. Only God can give you the faith to believe. So the first thing you need to do is ask God for faith. Then wait. It sounds like God is drawing you and Jesus promises that he who seeks will find. So every time you feel the desire, ask God for faith and He will give it to you. Sometimes God will wait until we come to the end of ourselves and have no more answers. Then we are completely open to hearing him. I'll pray for you too.
Just thinking of how severely the Janet Jackson/Justin Timberlake [bared breast] thing has impacted our society... Men will become more sexually emboldened and aggressive. More rapes will occur... Terrorists are probably more emboldened now. They already see America as the Great Satan, exporting filth around the world. Just more ammo to want to destroy us.
Oh, which reminds me, how is it provable that all this "evidence" of skeletons and DNA isnt some fabrication devised to act as "proof" for the unprovable? Modern technology can certainly create molds or modifications to a skeleton to make it appear to be something that it is not.
It means simply there is no such thing (never has been never will be )as an Atheist. What you have is Believers and unbelievers... Atheism is a pure impossibility.... you would have to know everything,that's why the fool has said in his heart there is no God,(what does that make the person who says it outload?) How do we know that there are no atheists? Even agnostics are not physically/mentally blind,even they know there is a God,God has made it CLEAR to them,but their hearts cannot accept this 'sight' so they say that they don't know!! Like the person who refuses to see what is in front of him,BECAUSE he keeps putting his hands over his eyes! It is truly shocking the power of denial,and none more so than denying God's very exsistence.They ARE (not might be) without excuse.Rom 1