[Paul's response to a thread he created entitled, "Is abortion OK if it would end homosexuality?]
I was listening to Rush Limbaugh, and he presented this interesting scenario. What would happen if the woman's right to choose an abortion interfered with homsexual's rights - which I think it is very conceivable that this could happen. Would the gays champion the right for a woman to choose an abortion, even if it means there will be far less homosexuals in the world - at least enough that they will no longer be a political force in the world? My guess that if this scenario ever hapens the homosexuals would become the staunchest pro-life group ever.
And what of the feminist? Would the feminst change his position on abortion? Would the feminist be in favor of outlawing abortion if it would endanger the homosexual right to exist? My guess is that the pro-abortion crowd do not care if it means the total extinction of their homsexual friends.
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So you have so much opinionated rage/hate that you have nothing better to do then sit around and listen to a bigotted, pill-popping hypocrite about unrealistic situations involving people you don't know? Gays are a political force in the world? I guess about as much as left-handed people.
What...why...huh?
Wow - he really thinks sexuality is determined in the womb.
@Anna Ghislaine:
"and he presented this interesting scenario"
This is just stupid, as well as a transparently obvious strawman.Any organizationd devoted to the promotion of a cause will oppose any national movement that damages or sets back that cause. That's just common sense. You don't see the Republican party calling for special investigations into Bush and you don't see the NAACP countersuing on behalf of the KKK.
But this is a total strawman because the poster is trying to portray homosexuals as hypocritical and selfish by describing a hypothetical situation and then damning them because of their hypothetical course of action.
That's about as legitimate a tactic as me divorcing my wife because of what she did in a dream I had.
I was listening to Paul Ackerman, and he presented this interesting scenario. What would happen if homosexuals could be selectively aborted - which I think it is very conceivable that this could happen. Would the fundies champion the right for a woman to choose an abortion, because it means there will be far less homosexuals in the world - at least enough that they will no longer be a political force in the world? My guess that if this scenario ever hapens the fundies would become the staunchest pro-choice groups ever
What would happen if the woman's right to choose an abortion interfered with homsexual's rights - which I think it is very conceivable that this could happen.
I'm wondering how we could tell that an embryo is going to be homosexual? I have heard that homosexuality is caused by the overabundance of opposite gender hormones affecting the development of the brain, but I don't know whether that effect is caused by genetics or environment.
I think his logical fallacy is that he's assuming that most people, including feminists, would abort a pregnancy if they knew it would result in a homosexual child.
Like I said before, way too many posts about homosexuality suggest that they don't havea real, worthy target to vent their anger/angst on... if your main concern in life is to attack two guys loving each other and holding hands and showing affection, then that is pretty pathetic! Most of the real problems that people should be focusing on and getting really upset over overshadow this completely!
Wait a second, you can actually listen to Rush Limbaugh, he says actual words? Wow, whenever he talked all I ever heard was bullshit.
Jaded revenge:
Be careful, Mister Spak. Attempting to decipher fundie thought processes is hazardous to your sanity. Remember, if you gaze into the abyss for too long, the abyss gazes back.
Grey Area: Rush Limbaugh is an overrated, hypocritical, uberconservative, drugged-up fucktard who somehow got a syndicated radio talk show and apparently is huge among fundies and other extreme right-wingnuts. He's the one responsible for coining the word "feminazis," an asinine descriptive term for those who don't beleve that human rights should be based on whether the recipient is male or female.My hero.
Right.
Grey Area: Ho, fellow Brit.is the American Littlejohn. He has the same crypto-fascist outlook and technique of repeating a joke over and over until it ceases to be funny. Unfortunately, he can (occasionally) also be very witty and charismatic. Unlike Littlejohn.
jay: they realize they have to 'get' you while you are young and while you still can't make good, informed, independent decisions yet
Generally I like the thrust of your argument, but when do you believe one gains the ability to make 'good, informed, independent decisions'? This entire site is proof that it does not come with age.
Sorry, I'm fifteen and get this quite a lot. It really does rankle after a while.
What would happen if the woman's right to choose an abortion interfered with homsexual's rights - which I think it is very conceivable that this could happen.
Okay, the original post is WAY more fucked up than this.
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