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[Have u ever found something in the bible that u didn't like?]

When you find something in the Bible that you don't like, most likely it's the Holy Spirit convicting YOU on something which is going on in YOUR life.

Homosexuals don't like Leviticus 18 and 20, Romans 1, 1 Corinthians 5 or 6, or Jude -- and yet, homosexuals know intuitively that their choice of lifestyle is WRONG, that it is SINFUL, and the Holy Spirit is trying to convict them to get them to repent of their homosexuality and move back to normal, God-given heterosexuality.

Women, particularly feminist women, don't like 1 Corinthians 14 or 1 Timothy 2 which forbids women from speaking in churches, teaching in churches, or having any authority over men -- and yet, women know intuitively that God created Adam FIRST, THEN Eve from Adam; that God came to earth as a male (not a female), and the natural order is God - husband - wife - children. This exists all throughout nature and also in all human societies. Dogs and cats know this. Horses and cows know this. All of animalkind accepts this -- except humans, who think they have the right to go against God's Natural Order where women are "equal" to men. Christ grants a degree of equality to women, but women have their own sphere of influence just as men have their own sphere.

Yes indeed - when we don't like a part of the Bible, it's usually because the Holy Spirit is working on something in us which GOD doesn't like!

GOD'S LAW IS CLEAR -- THE PENALTY SEVERE!!!

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old comment by Papabear

"When you find something in the Bible that you don't like, most likely it's the Holy Spirit convicting YOU on something which is going on in YOUR life."
The "holy spirit," as an entity, is not a real being. When you find something in the Bible that you don't like it is often because it is cruel and/or stupid. "Homosexuals don't like Leviticus 18 and 20, Romans 1, 1 Corinthians 5 or 6, or Jude -- and yet, homosexuals know intuitively that their choice of lifestyle is WRONG, that it is SINFUL, and the Holy Spirit is trying to convict them to get them to repent of their homosexuality and move back to normal, God-given heterosexuality. Homosexuality is not a choice. Belief in God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are a choice, a poor choice made by deluded persons. I am not gay, but I do not care for the passages you cited. "Women, particularly feminist women, don't like 1 Corinthians 14 or 1 Timothy 2 which forbids women from speaking in churches, teaching in churches, or having any authority over men -- and yet, women know intuitively that God created Adam FIRST, THEN Eve from Adam; that God came to earth as a male (not a female), and the natural order is God - husband - wife - children." I am not a woman, yet I do not like these passages either. "This exists all throughout nature and also in all human societies. Dogs and cats know this. Horses and cows know this. All of animalkind accepts this -- except humans, who think they have the right to go against God's Natural Order where women are "equal" to men." You don't know what you're talking about. I am a dog breeder and a professional dog trainer. In my household, the pack is led by a female and it has been for years. "Christ grants a degree of equality to women," What the heck is "a degree of equality?" That's like a little bit pregnant or somewhat unique. "but women have their own sphere of influence just as men have their own sphere." What, men can't cook, clean, wash dishes or do laundry? Grow up, dinkwad. "Yes indeed - when we don't like a part of the Bible, it's usually because the Holy Spirit is working on something in us which GOD doesn't like!" No, it's often because the misogynistic, anti-child, homophobic, xenophobic, cruel fairy tales of ancient, desert tribesmen are just too stupid to have much importance in a modern society. "GOD'S LAW IS CLEAR -- THE PENALTY SEVERE!!!" "God's" law is anything but clear. The stated penalties are severe, but since God, his laws and his penalties are fictions, we have nothing to fear from them.

old comment by Zadic

How could you be so stupid that never once in your life you never heard of one animal where females are elevated above males? Off the top of my head Elephants come to mind as the female leads the heard. However, all animals have their own way of doing things which do not always equate to males being elevated over females. A lot don't even live together, but instead they branch off into tiny groups (i.e. deer) or go alone and really only have contact with each other when they are ready to mate.
What you described is something that happens in societies where by the strongest leads and females of that species aren't as strong/aggressive/as equipped for combat. Horses, Cows, (cows are not even a species) Dogs, and Cats are not even remotely like that. Considering those are the animal life that is most well known to Humans I don't even know how you could say such a thing. Have you ever bothered observing their lifestyle for a second or did you just think adding that in made your nonsense seem more believable even though you have no idea what you are talking about? I also hate to break it to you, but Humans aren't like that either. In Hunter gather societies, males and females were rather equal. They had different tasks that they preformed, but both males and females valued and depended on the other's abilities and so being the one to go out and bash something on the head didn't equate to power over the other. The problem occurred when civilization began as most of the work to be done required hard manual labor by farming land and from there even harder manual labor by building things around/near it. And then defending the things you built from others who wanted to take it for themselves. The average woman wasn't able to do this kind of work as hard and for as long so they became comities to those people who saw them as only useful for breeding and caring for them after a long day's work. The problem (for ignorant fools like yourself) is that things have changed a lot since then, especially with the dawn of the industrial revolution where by the majority of jobs out there can be done by anyone. So, these old ideas that people 2,000 years ago held to be true no longer apply and the idea of claiming that they were words of wisdom from a higher power instead of the ideas of people who lived in a vastly different time is moronic at best. The Bible is not literal and it is not the unfiltered word of a higher being. I'm not going to claim that it may not have been inspired by something super natural even though I find the thought laughable, but if you study history, if you study written works, if you study the Human mind, and if you properly study that book from an objective point of view you will learn to see it for what it really is. Until you are intelligent enough to do so you are certainly not intelligent enough to try to claim dominance over a large number of Human beings who are far more intelligent than you - Incase you didn't get the hint, the moral of my verbose ramblings is that intelligence is what society values today, not strength, so get with the program.

old comment by SBeloved

You know... I never understood the religious mentality that women are only to follow men, and can't lead or do anything really on their own. Especially when you think about when we grow older, and it's often the women who outlive the men. I mean, once she's a widow, she doesn't have anyone to blindly follow. If anything, shouldn't the males be looking up to these older, wiser females? Gawd would have to have a reason for letting the women live longer, after all. Gawd always has a reason. Perhaps it's a sign?...
********* This is only speculation using a christian's backward "logic". Obviously, in the real world, there are no set, moral reasons for anyone living longer than anyone else. If you get hit by a car and die, you get hit by a car and die- it's nobody's chosen will. Thus, do understand this is hypothetical and I am in no way saying that anyone is superior to anyone else. Everyone has their flaws and strengths. *********

old comment by John

This exists all throughout nature and also in all human societies. Dogs and cats know this. Horses and cows know this. All of animalkind accepts this -- except humans, who think they have the right to go against God's Natural Order where women are "equal" to men.
What's he talking about? There's a species of fish where the female is a full-sized fish and the male is this tiny leech-like thing that clings to her body. Female mantises kill and eat their mates during the mating process - it's said to actually improve their sexual performance. Male spiders have to approach their potential mates with a great deal of bowing and scraping to prevent being killed. Certain lizards, when food is scarce, do away with males entirely and give birth (to females) without mating.

old comment by Blue Lithium

Homosexuals don't like Leviticus 18 and 20, Romans 1, 1 Corinthians 5 or 6, or Jude
We don't like them because people keep using them to deny us our rights. Even though the link btn them and homosexuality is tenous at best. Leviticus 18/20 - condemns men sleeping with men...but that law was abolished when Christ came. Romans 1 is incredibly vague in most translations. And there is a lot of evidence supporting the fact it's about prostitution. 1 Corinithans is a mistranslation. Jude doesn't mention homosexuality at all. and yet, homosexuals know intuitively that their choice of lifestyle is WRONG, that it is SINFUL It's not a choice. It's not a lifestyle. It's not wrong, in the opinion of anyone worth their salt. It's not sinful, because for it to be sinful, God would have to exist. and the Holy Spirit is trying to convict them to get them to repent of their homosexuality and move back to normal, God-given heterosexuality. for the holy spirit do do anything, it would have to exist. God given heterosexuality? God must have ran out of this resource by the time I got there, then, eh? Women, particularly feminist women, don't like 1 Corinthians 14 or 1 Timothy 2 which forbids women from speaking in churches, teaching in churches, or having any authority over men Well, any woman with half a brain would disagree with your mysogynist twaddle. In fact, any PERSON with half a brain would. and yet, women know intuitively that God created Adam FIRST, THEN Eve from Adam; Nope. For god to have done that, he'd have to exist.