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ethang5 #homophobia apologetics.org

My personal life has become more stressfull lately. Gays are a primary reason for it. I don't have health insurance because of Gays. My marriage has been under a lot of stess and the homosexuals are making that worse. This is all personal stuff that is none of your business, but I appreciate that you noticed me. Thanks.
The world is also in a mess, largely because of Gay activists.
And I listen to local homosexuals say things like: "Do you really want to get me started on my reasons for finding christians despicable?"


Gays keep insisting on driving into my life. They start deseases and stop people from having health coverage and endorse vice and make the rich richer while the poor get poorer. This is just a small start on my list of reasons for resenting the Gay lifestyle. Do you really want to get me started on my reasons for finding homosexuals despicable? I could write pages of them.

I don't want to wrestle with homosexuals. (yuck) Homosexuality doesn't mean anything. It's an abstract concept that serves mainly to re-inforce the sordid desires that people already hold. Gays pick and choose parts from the constitution or Tradition or their current favorite Gay activist spokesman and claim that it is True tolerance. The hypocrisy of picking whatever you want to believe from the many different sources and calling it "lifestyle chioce" is what I'm wrestling with. I'm not wrestling with homosexuality, (yuck) I'm wrestling with the humans that call what they believe "Love". The difference is important.

ocb #fundie apologetics.org

[One for the Fundy Word Redefinition Project?]

Here's the discription of the Gnostics: 1John2: 22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. 23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

Subsets of gnostics include materialist, athiest, agnostics, secularist, mormons, Jeh. Witnesses, on and on. Like the scriptures says : anyone who denies that Jesus is the Christ.,,,Anyone!

ocb #fundie apologetics.org

I have no intentions of backing down from anyone Jew or otherwise who tries to demonize Christianity because of a few bad apples who "called" themselves Christians. That would be stupid and it's clear that historically the Gnostics have done exactly that. They are perfessionals at hijacking religions and using violence to get their way.

A good stigma will whip a good dogma everytime and this is what I see one individual attempting to do here. He's wrong and I'm not going to shut up about it.

The Jews drew the first blood against the first century Christians, fact!
According to their own law, an eye for an eye, they are guilty for that.
For 2000 years now the true christian believers have been persecuted every bit as much and more than the Jews. It's still going on today. WWW.PERSECUTION.COM Therefore, if this individual wants a fight with one who follows Jesus Christ, he's got one .

ps. Brothers in Christ: We do not war against flesh and blood but powers and principalities in heavenly places, please remember that.

ocb #fundie apologetics.org

I'll stick to the facts and logically so. Atheism is logically void of any meaning. Try reading Isaiah 28. It mentions atheist. They have a covenant with death but death will deceive them and fail them and break the covenant and every atheist will be raised up on the last day to face God at the great white throne judgment and they will have to give God and acooiunting for their life and what they chose to believe. Believe it or not!

Summapaxist #fundie apologetics.org

Today, the secularist says, "If quantum physics wasn't right, then technology wouldn't be here for you to email the question of it."

The truth is, progress gets made despite man's arrogant notions of his own perfection in thought.

"Strong" and "Weak" forces in atoms have never existed. They were phatoms of the false concept of Niels Bohr's atomic model. But rather than state the error, Science has a practice of hiding its errors by renaming and sidestepping with "advanced theories" which are really just coverups for old errors.

The second LAW of thermodynamics has never been true and certainly not a LAW.

Quantum physics is merely the dance required to keep interest in a problem already solved long ago, but wants for more attention and funding.

E. C. Everett #fundie apologetics.org

Mob rule isn't the opposite of political correctness going over the edge, mob rule is political correctness going over the edge. Witch burnings? The "Reign of Terror?" The Bolsheviks? National Socialism? Mao's purges? Tiannenman Square?

Cameron #fundie apologetics.org

You are alone in your house when suddenly you are surrounded by creatures who announce that they are from another planet. You aren't sure that you are awake--this could be a dream, but it feels very real.

Next you are aboard a spaceship, flying through the solar system. The aliens tell you that they have checked in on earth life periodically since it first started. They tell you that one day they abducted a lifeform from earth and changed it. They then returned it to earth.

Your alien captors give you a chance to guess what it was they changed. If you guess wrong, you will be killed. If you guess correctly, you will be returned to earth.

They give you two options. They say that one was designed by them, the other resulted from the Darwinian mechanism:

a) they changed a bacteria by adding a flagellum

b) they changed a beak on a finch on a Gallapagos island, which Darwin later attributed to natural selection.

Which do you choose? Which do you think was more likely to have been designed, and which is more likely to have resulted from the Darwinian mechanism?

time4me #fundie apologetics.org

For people like me - who do believe the Biblical account - it is a strange situation. I kind of dated a Biblical Evolutionist long ago. When we found we differed in this he asked me how did the whales and other big water creatures get on board the Ark? How did they even get on board before it started to rain? But some evolutionists who did did not hold to the Bible said whales probably had some little hind legs. It makes perfect sense to me, I think the whales and the sea cows walked on board the ark. And this is because I'm using the same info and discoveries that evolutionists use to say there cannot be Biblical exactness. Hmm.

ethang5 #fundie apologetics.org

[... I note that the verse says that God will answer "whatever you wish" and not try and make up excuses why "whatever you wish" doesn't really mean "whatever you wish".]

Fortunately, God does not become an idiot, even when you give Him a classic demonstration of what an idiot is.

Cameron #fundie apologetics.org

The right to marry is not based on the desire to touch someone else's body. It is based on the natural order-- the fact that a man and a woman can become related to each other biologically by having a child. (In cases of infertility, it is merely a matter of parts not working right. The machine still has nature's sanction. In contrast, there is nothing in nature to sanction the mingling of sperm and feces.)

FreddieD #fundie apologetics.org

[I'm sure there are a handful of individuals in the world who believe in the Christian god, are angry at Him, and call themselves "atheists". Let me be the first to tell you that such individuals are not atheists.]


Nonsense, again. The very fact that they call themselves atheist, as the word means "anti theist", is a testimony of their anger of God and Christians, or any other religion that professes the same. Agnostics have more sense than atheists do. Just, how can a rational individual make these claims:


There is no Deity
The soul doesn't exist
There is no After Life


without admitting that it is just out of spite?

You will observe that the so-called atheist is merely anarchist. Trying to do the impossible against Nature's rule of creating a void. The public has already passed judgement on them. Even in the decline of the Protestant's Religion there hasn't been an increase in atheism. They haven't gain a wind fall and remain at around 8% to 10% of the public. Why do you think that is so? Not many wants to become whining Christians who didn't get want they wanted from Christianity and decided to wage an all out war on the idea. Some even lamented and left atheism to join the rest of mankind.

I recommend posters treat them as vultures. You are not going to convince them because they are not open to reasoning. They only pick on the unprepared. Just turn the tables on them and they will scatter when they see a sign of life.

SilenceinMadness #fundie apologetics.org

When i heard Him say that, i began watching Him very closely and i can honestly say that i never saw Jesus abort a baby once. Never even heard about something like that happening with the Lord. i did, however, hear about a child being raised from the dead at His command.

But if you want to get technical, He cursed a fig tree, and when the madness takes me i see the tree alive - yet corrupt and fruitless - and He killed it.

Wizard of Oz #fundie apologetics.org

[A federal judge has issued a preliminary injunction against a school district that will allow a wheelchair athlete to run at track events at the same time as her able-bodied teammates.]

Well, isn't that special? Will he also wave his magic wand and enable her to participate in the pole vault?

Wizard of Oz #fundie apologetics.org

There was no "Greek and Roman science." Neither the Greeks nor the Romans ever developed the notion of "natural laws" which could account for phenomena in nature. There was Greek and Roman engineering and technology, but never science.

[Later in the same post: never heard of Pythagoras?]

... heliocentrism was not a scientific model devised by the Greeks.

Archie the Preacher #fundie apologetics.org

[the board had just been defaced by a hacker (again), as many phpBB boards are, regardless of their subject]

These attacks are from the same source as before. These attacks are evidence of the extreme paranoid fear and hatred of Christianity held by some people. The idea Christianity is not persecuted is nonsense.

christianonnet #fundie apologetics.org

[Apparently ignorant of (and unable to deduce the meaning of) "light-year," this is in response to: "Because light takes a year to travel a light-year ..."]

Does it? Remember at a debate forum unsupported assertions are worthless. The burden of proof is upon the claimant.

ethang5 #fundie apologetics.org

[Suggesting there is no moral difference between potential people and actual people]

Potentials can have value. Incidentally, this is true also in science. There is such a thing as potential energy, and it has real value.

['The only thing potential humans and potential energy have in common are the words that they use, but otherwise they are distinct ideas that have no logical relationship with one another. Its "comparing apples to oranges" so-to-speak.']

Both apples and oranges have value. One can compare that. Do you feel silly?

GloryBound #fundie apologetics.org

[Responding to having had his claim, that "fuck" started out as an acronym, shot down. See <a href="http://www.snopes.com/language/acronyms/fuck.htm" target="_blank">Snopes.com</a> and <a href="http://www.etymonline.com/baloney.php" target="_blank">Etymology Online</a>]

You say "No it wasn't" yet you present little evidence to prove your assertion. How is it that you are so sure that my statement is incorrect, yet unable to convincingly present evidence that yours is correct? Was there no such thing as fornication under concent of the king? Can you present evidence that this acronym was not adopted for such occurances, as well as what you suggest?