Masturbation is a sin because a person consents in their own heart to take sexual gratification from impure thoughts. It is sinful to indulge in the sexual pleasure that is derived from the satisfaction of using one's imagination to FIXATE upon obscene images, or obscene actions, or forbidden sex. Lustfully fixating upon genitals, or sexual acts, is idolatry. This is called: the worship of obscenities. This is the sin of those addicted to pornography.
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Following your stupid statement, having a girlfriend or saying somebody is handsome or pretty is a sin too. Masturbation is not considered a sin in the Bible because:
a)it's a private affair.
b)involves no people except the practicioner.
c)has no harmful consequences(STD's or pregnancies).
Compulsive masturbation is bad, but that's because it's a psychological problem, not because of the deed itself.
95% of men masterbate.
5% lie about it.
"the worship of obscenities" ...I like that, I'll have to remember to use it sometime. "No, I think I'll pass on a movie tonight guys, I've got to tend to my worship of obscenities."
Thanks very much, pseud.
Not.
"Lustfully fixating upon genitals is idolatry? What, do people worship the Great Penis?"
Yes, I'm afraid they do. The patriarchy co-opts religion wherever it can in order to maintain its power. Religions that have, or can be made to have, an image as particularly feminine (e.g., Wicca), are ostracized and Othered. Only the great Sky Beard is eligible for our worship, and he says wimmins stays in the kitchen!
Lustfully fixating upon genitals is idolatry? What, do people worship the Great Penis? Well, there are the lingam and the yoni, but I don't think that Groundhog had them in mind.
But Groundhog, what if you're masturbating to the mental image of people being converted to Christianity?
Oh, how I'd love to see Groundhog meet formerlyHgrRandy...
Stretching your sentences to insert as many big words as possible doesn't make your bullshit any truer, Groundhog...
"Lustfully fixating upon genitals is idolatry? What, do people worship the Great Penis?"
Many animistic/polytheistic societies did, actually, including for example the Romans (Priapus,...) In Japan there are still harvest/fertility festivals like the Honen Matsuri where giant wooden penises are paraded, and phallus/vagina-shaped candies sold ^^
A few pictures of such a festival
Stretching your sentences to insert as many big words as possible doesn't make your bullshit any truer, Groundhog...
"Lustfully fixating upon genitals is idolatry? What, do people worship the Great Penis?"
Many animistic/polytheistic societies did, actually, including for example the Romans (Priapus,...) In Japan there are still harvest/fertility festivals like the Honen Matsuri where giant wooden penises are paraded, and phallus/vagina-shaped candies sold ^^
A few pictures of such a festival
What the hell, is this idolatry week in Fundyland? And now, is you'd excuse me, please, I'm going to busy for awhile.
Ok, well anything is bad when you FIXATE on it. But unless you have an addiction to something, you're not going to be fixated on it, and addiction is a separate issue.
Then why did God give us an imagination that can come up with such things in the first place?
Since I don't believe in your 'sin', your version of 'obscene', 'forbidden' or 'idolatry', I am quite happy with my thoughts being lustfully fixated upon genitals.
You can call it worship all you want, but it isn't. It's called biology, perhaps you shouldn't have slept through that class in junior high.
Masturbation hurts NO ONE. It actually helps at least one person, and hey, it can also be an activity you can share with others.
You sound angry; you should go pummel your groundhog for a while. You'll feel beater...er, batter...better. I meant "better".
Speak for yourself! If you have impure thoughts of obscene images and actions, forbidden sex, if you worship your genitals, that's your problem. The rest of us have pure thoughts of happy images and actions, happy sex, and we don't worship anything, really.
"Masturbation is a sin because a person consents in their own heart to take sexual gratification from impure thoughts."
What tells you that a thought is impure? I masturbate to thoughts of my wife. I'm actually allowed to touch her private parts, at least some times. But if we're physically separated, such as by military deployment, i can't reach them. So is it impure to masturbate in my bunk under way? Thinking of her? No porn needed.
What's wrong with using my imagination to imagine sex with my wedded partner?
I think you're just making shit up, really.
Confused?
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