( MardyMcMare )
Everything that comes with your “transness” repels us. The narcissism, the neediness, the treading on eggshells for fear of genociding your feelings, the sheer regressive stupidity of the ideology, the terrible dress sense, the male entitlement.
“No trans” just says all of the above but in far fewer characters.
What this says to me is that you don’t give a damn who I am as a person. You’ve already decided, long before you’ve met me. You decided that I’m a smattering of stereotypes that you think apply not just to some, or many, or even most of my people — but ALL of them, me included.
You know, I seem to remember something.
“Women are people.” “We are not the gender stereotypes you project onto us.” “Stop putting us into boxes!”
You know, things like that.
But I suppose it’s only wrong when it’s done to you? When people paint you all with the same demeaning and dehumanizing brush? When they insistently label you in ways that you don’t want to be labeled and which you consider to be wrong?
We, however… we’re all the same. We’re exactly the ridiculous caricature you paint of us. Sure.
( Spencer_Shayy )
Exactly. "Trans" comes with a whole lot of baggage that most people just don't fucking want to deal with.
You know what? I agree.
Yes, many people, most of whom are not TERFs, see us the same way your sister up there describes. It’s exactly what they expect from us, so they don’t want anything to do with any of us. For instance, I’ve seen a jobs subreddit where most employers who posted in a thread there have outright stated that they consider being trans or non-binary as an instant disqualification for a prospective employee.
They see us as a ticking time-bomb, a lawsuit waiting to happen, a drama that they’d rather avoid.
They’re not afraid to say it. They were very open about it. They consider it to be common sense.
But, when I said I agree with Spencer_Shayy here (ugh…), I didn’t mean just about people’s perceptions of us.
No; being with us really can come with a lot of baggage.
It’s a well known fact that we trans people suffer from a disproportionately high amount of mental issues. Not for the reasons TERFs assume; but it doesn’t matter. The simple fact is that most people don’t want to have to deal with people who have issues; they want stable, capable, productive and well-adjusted individuals who will be easy and simple to get along with, and who won’t be tiresome in any way.
They don’t care why we’re not mentally fine. They don’t care if it can be helped. They just don’t want to deal with other people’s problems, let alone take them on.
And I am no exception to the ‘poor mental health’ trope. I have issues with anxiety, lack of motivation, difficulties with focus and communication, and I used to have depression as well.
Transitioning has helped with depression, certainly, but many of these other things are not just tied to gender dysphoria. I knew that before transitioning, and didn’t expect it to make those better. That is a whole other effort.
So yeah, I can understand why someone would rather not want to deal with me. There are healthier, more confident, more easygoing and more productive people out there.
Even so, as someone had once put it, what I have are some of the most mundane mental issues out there.
Many other people… they suffer from much more serious conditions, like personality disorders. And yes, that can make these people difficult on those around them.
But it does tell a lot about you that you seem to just straight-up have an attitude of “fuck off” towards people who are less than ideal mentally.
Which is a bit ironic, given that you Ovarites are like a christmas tree decorated with red flags and mental problems. I have seen few places filled with so many people in obvious dire need of therapy.
And yet… you have convinced yourselves that you’re very normal and sane.
